KHV Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I thought Ireland was playing well first half and playing some good passes. I thought it went wrong in the second half especially when bannan started trying to play his hollywood 50 yard passes like he normally does. i don't rate bannan at all, somebody needs to tell him he is not David Beckham! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I thought Ireland was playing well first half and playing some good passes. I thought it went wrong in the second half especially when bannan started trying to play his hollywood 50 yard passes like he normally does. i don't rate bannan at all, somebody needs to tell him he is not David Beckham! Undoubtedly he's got an eye for a pass but he needs to learn that sometimes a 5 yard pass can be as effective as the 50 yard Hollywood pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanO Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Well done Steven Ireland you told Mcleish exactly what most of us are saying. I hope he takes your advise and **** off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-Villan Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I think Ireland played well first half and we missed him a lot in the second. Bannan seems to have gone backwards since the drink drive thing and is having an Albrighton kind of season. I still have hope that both can come back stronger, but I wouldn't put my house on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted February 6, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2012 Ireland missing was the difference in the 2nd half. He was an outlet in the first half that would control the ball, keep possession and pass on the deck - even if it was just a short one. There was one piece of play in the first half where 4 short crisp passes between Ireland, Keane and Bent carved them open. More of that please! Bannan, however, was guilty of lumping it forward which was hugely disappointing. The lad has such good control and can beat a man in close quarters but keeps opting for the hollywood "half the field" pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 McLeish confirmed he was injured and wouldn't take Ireland off for swearing at him because he isn't petty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-Villan Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 McLeish confirmed he was injured and wouldn't take Ireland off for swearing at him because he isn't petty. But everyone might not choose to believe him. He might want to say that in order to keep what he sees as an internal disciplinary matter in-house, for example. And he might want to quash a story before it turned into some much bigger player revolt thing (as was starting to happen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caw2510 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Bannan, however, was guilty of lumping it forward which was hugely disappointing. The lad has such good control and can beat a man in close quarters but keeps opting for the hollywood "half the field" pass. very true but at least hes trying to go forwsrd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 What apparently happened Aston Villa boss Alex McLeish has played down reports of a touchline row with Stephen Ireland, insisting he substituted the midfielder at Newcastle because he was injured. Ireland was taken off at half-time by McLeish at St James' Park on Sunday as Villa crashed to a 2-1 Premier League defeat. The Irishman appeared to rant angrily at the manager after being blamed for Newcastle's opener. McLeish felt Ireland should have prevented Danny Guthrie from crossing for Demba Ba to score in the 30th minute. But the Scottish boss insists the midfielder was substituted because he had picked up an ankle knock. Injury He said: "I know he spoke back but, at the same time, players don't like to hear the manager screaming at them from the touchline. "But I kick every ball. I'm passionate and I care. I wouldn't be so petty to take a player off for something like that if he is doing a fantastic job. "When Guthrie side-stepped him to put the cross in, I thought Stevie should have been making that tackle or at least put a block on the cross. "But it was clear at half-time that he didn't have the capacity to get close to people. He had an ankle problem." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 well he would have been so up for the city game, to show them what for. now we are proper screwed if he is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 Well done Steven Ireland you told Mcleish exactly what most of us are saying. I hope he takes your advise and **** off.What did he say to him then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Bannan, however, was guilty of lumping it forward which was hugely disappointing. The lad has such good control and can beat a man in close quarters but keeps opting for the hollywood "half the field" pass. He does that all the time. He seems to think he can catch the eye by trying to hit 50+ yard passes and then fails 99% of the time. I thought he was awful yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 Bannan is dreadful, I just do not get the hype with him. Same as Albrighton, in fact for me we only have two decent youngsters and that is Clark and Gardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomsub Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 AMc was right - Ireland should of blocked the cross or at least had a half decent attempt at blocking it. If AMc took him off because of his response then good for him - he deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Telling the manager to **** off is not the smartest idea but I can see why he must be frustrated. Our entire back 4 has been out of position and consistently shit for months yet Ireland gets a bollocking for not defending. He probably should have tried a bit harder, but is AMC also bollocking Dunne, Collins, Cuellar, Hutton & Warnock for defending like retarded women? Ireland is the scapegoat, but things are not helped by his history I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daweii Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Yes Ireland has the responsibility to track back and he did, he tried to stop the cross but he's not a true defender it was Hutton's job and he was no where to be found. Did Hutton get shouted at? No, yet Ireland did for actually trying to do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Ireland shouldn't be blocking crosses because hes not a **** winger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost_In_Essex Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Ireland shouldn't be blocking crosses because hes not a **** winger! This. Neither are Gabby or Heskey or Bannon. Or Hutton (vs Spurs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_The_Villan Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Im not Irelands biggest fan but no way was he at fault for their first goal yesterday. We had 3 defenders in and around the 6 yard box when it was falling to Demba Ba. The fact that they are just so slow and cumbersome to react cant be Irelands fault can it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Agreed it is unrealistic to expect that we wont have any crosses into the box during a game. It was how we dealt with the cross that was the issue. Don't know why AM went so mental over it. Can only think he is really feeling the frustration of having a crap set of defenders but not being able to drop them because he has no adequate cover. That said Ireland has been stupid to react in the way he did and done himself and us no favours. Black mark against AM and SI for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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