Michael118 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: So the point is you found three posts that agree with your view on Clark? I think you are wrong by the way, Elphick is a far superior defender to Clark and I don't see that changing. No, they are 3 posters who didn't agree which I didn't get the chance to reply to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 After four or five games, Elphick looks a better player, but we're mostly judging Elphick for his performances against Championship clubs (and after only a few games) and Clarke's against Premier and international teams. I don't think it's that much of an outrageous opinion to rate Clarke as the better player, at this moment in time. But going by the evidence so far, I wouldn't swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 14 hours ago, Michael118 said: The point is the same one I made in the transfer speculation thread that Clark will end up being a better purchase than Elphick. I am simply replying to the posts I didn't get a chance to a few nights ago. You cannot be serious? Elphick looks 10x better than clark. I remember when clark captained us was like timmy mallett was leading us. Elphick is s different class 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 12 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: You cannot be serious? Elphick looks 10x better than clark. I remember when clark captained us was like timmy mallett was leading us. Elphick is s different class I have a new signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 13 hours ago, useless said: After four or five games, Elphick looks a better player, but we're mostly judging Elphick for his performances against Championship clubs (and after only a few games) and Clarke's against Premier and international teams. I don't think it's that much of an outrageous opinion to rate Clarke as the better player, at this moment in time. But going by the evidence so far, I wouldn't swap. To my knowledge, we've never had a Premier League regular called "Clarke". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Ciaran Clark or Ciaran Clarke as I like to call him when making it difficult for artificial intelligences to scan me. See also other spelling mistakes (not always on purpose of course )and the use of both US and British spellings of English words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 he might be poor but I dont think anybody would be surprised by his comments which sounds like a dig at some of our former managers Quote He [Benitez] was a massive reason why I joined,” Clark told The Times. “That and the other players who have signed. “I feel like I’m learning already. “Every time you step on to the training pitch, he tries to improve you as a team and an individual. “That’s something I haven’t had much of over the last few years. “He picks up on everything, every little detail.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Complaining on previous managers for your lack of progression as a player is so bullshit. If you haven't improved it's your own fault, stop blaming other people for you still being a shit player to this day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Well I am sure everyone of our previous managers and coaches tried to at the very least teach him the basics....but alas he couldn't even do them. Simple things like don't head the ball in your own net, don't dive in the box, don't commit yourself when you are the last man, don't dive in on the half way line... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 He's got plenty of flaws to correct. He always looked like he was about to cry when he played for us so perhaps our ex managers were attempting to maintain his dignity or simply didn't know where to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 9, 2016 Moderator Share Posted September 9, 2016 On 5 September 2016 at 19:48, rodders0223 said: Well I am sure everyone of our previous managers and coaches tried to at the very least teach him the basics....but alas he couldn't even do them. Simple things like don't head the ball in your own net, don't dive in the box, don't commit yourself when you are the last man, don't dive in on the half way line... Don't get to tight to players much stronger than you, don't lose your man on crosses because you are too busy ball watching, don't switch off after 85 mins.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 2 hours ago, TrentVilla said: Don't get to tight to players much stronger than you, don't lose your man on crosses because you are too busy ball watching, don't switch off after 85 mins.... I remember Victor Anchiebe absolutely destroying him one game when he was doing this. **** Anchiebe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 9, 2016 Moderator Share Posted September 9, 2016 1 hour ago, omariqy said: I remember Victor Anchiebe absolutely destroying him one game when he was doing this. **** Anchiebe. I remember it well, trouble is he didn't learn and he did it to him in another game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 3 hours ago, TrentVilla said: Don't get to tight to players much stronger than you, don't lose your man on crosses because you are too busy ball watching, don't switch off after 85 mins.... It's actually infuriating that a player who played in the PL for so long didn't learn from and improve on the first two points. I play fullback at Sunday League standard, and am furious with myself if I make an error as obvious as the first two, however he continued doing both season after season. I'm glad we kept Baker as he's stronger and not afraid to stick his head in where it hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I don't think it's a dig - he's just saying Benitez is a top coach and you can tell this because of what he does on the training ground, compared to how other managers' have worked with Clark in the past. When players come to us and say things such as "you can tell it's such a big club", do you assume they're having a dig at where they were before? :| 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) On 05/09/2016 at 18:46, Zatman said: He picks up on everything, every little detail With Kieran Clarke* I'd say the little details are everything. Terrible player. *He's a toon train wreck now so it's time to disrepect him. Edited September 9, 2016 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 On 9/9/2016 at 07:52, villa89 said: With Kieran Clarke* I'd say the little details are everything. Terrible player. *He's a toon train wreck now so it's time to disrepect him. Doing alright for Newcastle tonight. Some players just do better when they leave us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 1 minute ago, villianusa said: Doing alright for Newcastle tonight. Some players just do better when they leave us. Seems like a lot of our players start doing well when they leave us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, villianusa said: Doing alright for Newcastle tonight. Some players just do better when they leave us. it might help that QPR arent a premier league team and dont have a strong striker up front 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Just now, Czechlad said: Seems like a lot of our players start doing well when they leave us Barry Bannan just scored also lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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