dudevillaisnice Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Graham Taylor has thrown his weight behind Aston Villa caretaker manager Kevin MacDonald as the Midlands club wind up their search for a new manager, the former England and Aston Villa coach suggesting that the Scotsman has just the kind of intimate football knowledge, and support from the players, required to step into Martin O’Neill’s shoes. http://tinyurl.com/33zsoph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Benitez won the Champions League with his team then destroyed it and left leaving Liverpool struggling for 5th he won the CL with the previous managers team IIRC. Here we go again... Houllier couldn't win with that group of players, why should he be given credit for a win that was made possible by key Rafa signings - Alonso and Garcia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 No i wouldnt be bothered quite right, but i dont think we would ever do that and thats maybe our downfall - too nice!!! Its not necessarily about Spurs though. Rafael Van der Vaart will be a good addition to the premier league and will probably bring revenue. Its within the FA's interest for Van der Vaart to be in the premiership and therefore I believe the Fa may have cut a few corners as well. Be interesting to know what might have happened if Van der vaart was already a prem player playing for another club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlitobrigante Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 really cant make my mind up, Moyes would be no1 but unrealistic. Id take Mcleish as he's building something solid at blues. Failing that it seems a 3 way tussle between Sven, Curbs, and Kmac..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 ITK, I had a dream last night and it was Curbs as manager. No, No, before you say lies, it's 100% true. Well, the dream is anyway but don't know about the true outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted September 2, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted September 2, 2010 Graham Taylor has thrown his weight behind Aston Villa caretaker manager Kevin MacDonald as the Midlands club wind up their search for a new manager, the former England and Aston Villa coach suggesting that the Scotsman has just the kind of intimate football knowledge, and support from the players, required to step into Martin O’Neill’s shoes. http://tinyurl.com/33zsoph The most interesting bit of that article came at the end: The club have also been interviewing other candidates this week, Alan Curbishley and Sven Goran Eriksson among them, but a source close to one of the managers involved expressed his concern that the process was merely a cosmetic one. He pointed to the manner in which MacDonald let it be known he wanted the role - unlikely to have been made without feeling he had considerable support within the club given the three weeks of prevaricating which came before it - as evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/197022/MacDonald-must-be-free-to-coach? ASTON Villa expect to have a new man in charge soon. What they must not do is appoint Kevin MacDonald as the manager. Villa are a club I have a lot of affection for, having worked there twice as a manager and also been on the board. This is their opportunity to remodel how the football side of the club is run and probably their best chance of breaking into the top four. When I was managing them, MacDonald was there. He has been there a long time and I have great respect for his knowledge and coaching ability. That is why Villa should appoint him as head coach, his responsibility beginning and ending with the first team and getting out on the training pitch with them. That is what he is best at. If they make MacDonald the manager in the old-fashioned way, they will not be getting the best out of him. It will be a waste. It’s how Martin O’Neill managed Villa – he was responsible for everything. It’s the way I used to manage, it’s the way Sir Alex Ferguson used to manage. But Alex now delegates more. If I was in management now, so would I. The job is too big for one man. It needs to be split. MacDonald would have to do the media duties as well because there is no way the man who runs the team can’t answer the questions. But all the rest of it, the contracts and the money side of the club, that needs to be taken off him and done by someone else. What has happened with O’Neill couldn’t have happened at a worse time. And he’s taken another four staff with him – the assistant manager, first-team coach, goal-keeping coach and chief scout. It’s been a big hole to fill for MacDonald, promoted from looking after the reserves at which he was excellent. With Tony McAndrew also promoted alongside him, MacDonald has done well to get Villa through these past two weeks. SEARCH FOOTBALL for: The chairman, Randy Lerner, did not over-react to the team beating a poor West Ham side in the first game under MacDonald, nor did he over-react to the 6-0 defeat at Newcastle. He has let MacDonald run the team and is taking an overview of the five games he has had. MacDonald has taken his time to be sure, but perhaps not done himself any favours by talking openly of his doubts about doing the job now he has said he wants to be considered. This is a big chance for Lerner to put Villa on a better footing, to be able to compete in the big four with a head coach who appoints, or agrees to the appointments, of those who will work with him. There will be a lot of applicants for the job, but I don’t see a lot out there. Sven-Goran Eriksson would bring a calm to the job, but is he the same manager now who did pretty well with Manchester City? I don’t know. Martin Jol? Would he want to come to Villa now he seems to have got what he wants with Ajax? Other top European names with no experience of our Premier League have been ruled out by Villa. The appointment of MacDonald as the new head coach is more and more attractive, with that brief to change the whole model. When I was on the board at Villa I asked the then manager, John Gregory, what he wanted, and how I could help. He said that Villa needed a better worldwide scouting system and I set about putting that in place for him. However, when I left it was not carried on. It’s the big area that is letting down Villa. I know Ian Storey-Moore, who was chief scout under O’Neill, and how the club operated. Villa did not take many players from abroad, it was mainly an English-based squad. That has to change. MacDonald and the board must never again be wide open to five senior members of the football staff leaving when the manager goes. It has wiped them out. Here is the opportunity to put a framework for coaching and scouting in place that stays in place no matter who the manager might be and who he brings with him. If Lerner is not going to provide substantial amounts of money in the future, then the club finding their own players would fit in with that edict and would make Villa stronger. I would like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 The bit at the end of that article has no substance the reporter has just been reading this website seen the conspiracy theories and thought thats a good one i'll beef it up a bit. Complete bollox. the article that choffer posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 If the club are concerned about low gates at the moment. Imagine what they'll be if Curbishley gets the job He hated playing for the club never mind managing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 The most interesting bit of that article came at the end: The club have also been interviewing other candidates this week, Alan Curbishley and Sven Goran Eriksson among them, but a source close to one of the managers involved expressed his concern that the process was merely a cosmetic one. He pointed to the manner in which MacDonald let it be known he wanted the role - unlikely to have been made without feeling he had considerable support within the club given the three weeks of prevaricating which came before it - as evidence. I agree with what that article says. Kev Mac shouldn't have applied for me as he should have no chance but the fact he has suggests he knows something others don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 GO AND GET McLEISH! No i am not joking. Yes it would piss them gypsys right off and good, it would certainly step at the atmosphere up even more come derby day! but he has proven that if he can turn a circus like that around which is good enough PL experiance for me then give him the bigger better team in the city to work with! With the foundations he has already got to work with here i think he will do really well. He is also a realistic target now too it seems.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Apologies to the PMers, I have been out all morning and just got back. I never have any idea who is on board a certain aircraft, I can only make assumptions based upon its movements. There was a strange one this morning that involved a quick turn around that suggested that it might be collecting someone. As its last foreign arrival was from a different point, I surmised that it wasn't collecting its owner. For me all things point to Houllier and, as I couldn't get odds on Jacques Santini :winkold: that is where I put my money. If you take me as a tipster, please bear in mind that I had a pile of money on MON to be the next Liverpool manager, so I am not exactly an accomplished gambler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 GO AND GET McLEISH! No i am not joking. Yes it would piss them gypsys right off and good, it would certainly step at the atmosphere up even more come derby day! but he has proven that if he can turn a circus like that around which is good enough PL experiance for me then give him the bigger better team in the city to work with! With the foundations he has already got to work with here i think he will do really well. He is also a realistic target now too it seems.. I fully agree. He would be my number 1 choice of manager within the realms of reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 If the club are concerned about low gates at the moment. Imagine what they'll be if Curbishley gets the job He hated playing for the club never mind managing it and he can't even pronounce the city right either - bermenam.... I don't want Curbs either - not inspiring on the pitch or off it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philthevillan Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 By the sounds of it Curbs has had a interview already and fits the criteria outlined He does ? What about the bit about being a winner ? If the criteria is mid table obscurity then yes he fits the bill. This appointment will either underline or weaken the fans' respect for the board. Curbs fir me would massively weaken it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philthevillan Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Apologies to the PMers, I have been out all morning and just got back. I never have any idea who is on board a certain aircraft, I can only make assumptions based upon its movements. There was a strange one this morning that involved a quick turn around that suggested that it might be collecting someone. As its last foreign arrival was from a different point, I surmised that it wasn't collecting its owner. For me all things point to Houllier and, as I couldn't get odds on Jacques Santini :winkold: that is where I put my money. If you take me as a tipster, please bear in mind that I had a pile of money on MON to be the next Liverpool manager, so I am not exactly an accomplished gambler to be fair Barry Bannan thought O'Neill was off to Liverpool so there may have been some truth in that rumour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 thetrees = Barry Bannan!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 I still have a feeling that all these names are a smoke screen. Why take this amout of time chatting to managers OUT of work and using a headhunting company? Why would you have to 'head hunt' a guy kicking his heels in between picking up his dole cheque? No, I still think Randy is after a guy who is currently employed and these names being bandied about are a smoke screen. It makes no sense IF we get a guy in who isn't working OR give it full time to a guy already at the club. If that is the case then really, the board have handled this whole thing very very poorly. Say what you like about Deadly but if he wanted a man he'd go get him and pay the compo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustenTasseltine Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Please not Curbishley. They wouldn't would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 I still have a feeling that all these names are a smoke screen. Why take this amout of time chatting to managers OUT of work and using a headhunting company? Why would you have to 'head hunt' a guy kicking his heels in between picking up his dole cheque? Probably for the same reason that it takes us 3 months to sign any player during the summer transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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