sne Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, John said: I hope we can. I hate the idea of the club's with money circling around us and taking advantage of our financial situation by making bids that are significantly below Jack's market value. They should be ashamed of themselves but will instead be laughing at us and congratulating themselves on robbing us of a few million that is just chump change for them but is vital to our future as a football club. They could at least give us the curtsey we always gives to other teams and pay way over the odds when buying players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, Okonokos said: His first season at MK Dons was 13/14, the same season Grealish was on loan at Notts County and was an absolute star. Look at the stats for both that season. They're very similar. Since then Grealish has been hampered by one thing or another. Give him the opportunity to play at the same level as Alli and I believe he will be better. Why do you think Grealish will be better than Alli? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, sne said: They could at least give us the curtsey we always gives to other teams and pay way over the odds when buying players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Okonokos said: His first season at MK Dons was 13/14, the same season Grealish was on loan at Notts County and was an absolute star. Look at the stats for both that season. They're very similar. Since then Grealish has been hampered by one thing or another. Give him the opportunity to play at the same level as Alli and I believe he will be better. Spurs presumably think the same, if they're trying to buy him. But Alli is clearly the better player right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Okonokos said: His first season at MK Dons was 13/14, the same season Grealish was on loan at Notts County and was an absolute star. Look at the stats for both that season. They're very similar. Since then Grealish has been hampered by one thing or another. Give him the opportunity to play at the same level as Alli and I believe he will be better. Largely himself. Hence why he's not hit the same heights Alli has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 People peak at different times this conversation is mind numbing. Personally I think Jack will surpass Ali 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 45 minutes ago, Fairy In Boots said: People peak at different times this conversation is mind numbing. Personally I think Jack will surpass Ali Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Why do you think Grealish will be better than Alli? Because I think he has the attributes and style of play to be a more complete footballer than Alli. Not looking at him favourably because I'm a Villa fan at all, I just think he'll be a better player. It's just gutting that he almost certainly won't become that player for us. I'm surprised you don't think he'll be better than him to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 5 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Alli started at MK Dons and was surrounded by not as good quality players but shone and earned his move to Spurs. Not only that, he exceeded expectations at Spurs and has been brilliant for England. I think you are being favourable towards Jack as you are a Villa fan He really hasnt. He has a goal every 13 games while its under 1 in 4 for club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 43 minutes ago, Zatman said: He really hasnt. He has a goal every 13 games while its under 1 in 4 for club In 2016/17 season, Alli got 18 Premier League goals, I doubt Grealish will ever get close to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, sir_gary_cahill said: In 2016/17 season, Alli got 18 Premier League goals, I doubt Grealish will ever get close to that talking about England, you said he was brilliant for England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Zatman said: talking about England, you said he was brilliant for England I think he’s been brilliant for England and Spurs Edited June 25, 2018 by sir_gary_cahill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I think he’a been brilliant for England and Spurs but he hasnt been brilliant for England, not even close to it. His record is dreadful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Zatman said: but he hasnt been brilliant for England, not even close to it. His record is dreadful Completely agree. I think he's been awful every time I've seen him play for England. We look a way better team without him. He's just a bit of a luxury player for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, Zatman said: but he hasnt been brilliant for England, not even close to it. His record is dreadful Ok, maybe not England but he still gets a starting berth. For Spurs, I think he’s superb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 5 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: Largely himself. Hence why he's not hit the same heights Alli has. Partly agree but you have to also say in his short stay with us he has to deal with a lot of crap as well- 1-Being part of one of the worst sides ever to grace the premier league with a succession of clueless managers and a want away owner of a football club. Not exactly Daniel Levy and Poch is it. 2- Getting a terrible injury in the last pre season game and missing a third of the year, and still ends up being one of the most creative players in his division. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Zatman said: but he hasnt been brilliant for England, not even close to it. His record is dreadful I agree. He's been pants for England. He's not as good as everyone says he is. He lacks the presence, IMO, to be a truly world class player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 26, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2018 6 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: I agree. He's been pants for England. He's not as good as everyone says he is. He lacks the presence, IMO, to be a truly world class player. I agree. But the discussion here isn't whether he's world class. it was whether he's better than grealish. Which, imo, is obviously the case. He's far better than grealish currently as well as being younger. Grealish MIGHT improve greatly and surpass Alli in time, especially if he gets a move to somewhere like Spurs. But it's a big ask. Alli is way ahead at the moment 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 12 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: In 2016/17 season, Alli got 18 Premier League goals, I doubt Grealish will ever get close to that Grealish is a different kind of #10 than Alli. He's not the goalscorer type. He's also one that I believe will fit in better with Spurs' style of play. A lot of Spurs fans are kind of frustrated with Alli right now. His output is undoubtedly excellent, but he slows a lot of their attacks down because he's not as creative as they'd like. I fear Jack would slot in perfectly in their system. I hate to say it/think it, but he would be brilliant linking up with players like Eriksen/Son/Kane in that team and improve their fluidity in ways that Alli struggles to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 19 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I agree. But the discussion here isn't whether he's world class. it was whether he's better than grealish. Which, imo, is obviously the case. He's far better than grealish currently as well as being younger. Grealish MIGHT improve greatly and surpass Alli in time, especially if he gets a move to somewhere like Spurs. But it's a big ask. Alli is way ahead at the moment No, the discussion here was does Grealish have the potential to be better than Ali. Let's get that right. Less of the high - hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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