Harry Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, ramshackler said: It’s an incredibly difficult , complex situation. the snake comments are ridiculous. Jack has shown tremendous loyalty to us and surely we can all accept (however begrudgingly) that a player of his talents deserves to test himself at the highest level. He doesn’t have many years left until he is at his peak so it’s not like he is 21 and can just give us a few years. on the other side of it, we are and have been for many years been over reliant on Jack. That isn’t healthy for the club, particularly when he does miss on average a third of every season. He has questionable injury history and an injury to an area which often turns out to be chronic (I genuinely believe there is an issue with the shins with recurrent stress fractures) the club have done everything to down play it each time it’s occurred but on each occasion it’s been 3/4 months out. £100 million for a 26 year old with that kind of injury history (with a currently managed problem) doesn’t seem like such a bad deal. We have to avoid getting dragged in by the romantics of one of our own. As hard as that is to say. Jack literally gave me my love back of club after a torturous ten years. we currently have an exceptional set up and recruitment team, better than we have ever had. If we get £100 million we can trust it will be reinvested well and in other areas of the team to improve the overall quality of the squad and becoming less reliant on one player. as much as it breaks my heart to say it, now is probably the best time to do it, his shin issue is still being managed and if he has another period out his value will go down and we will have another huge drop off in form. I think in a strange way it may be in our best interests (and probably Jack’s) that if a few can be agreed we both part ways. We end up with a stronger more competitive and consistent side full of young hungry and valuable assets, he goes on to show just how brilliant he is. I just hope we invest the money well in young hungry players and not waste half of it on JWP!! Spot on! If he goes he goes. A great player and a loss for us but £100m plus for him is a good deal and if we spend that money well we will have a better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, bobzy said: Where does he use "bid"? I can only see: He used the word bid as a synonym in the second paragraph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted July 30, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, BOF said: Offer and bid are the same thing in that context. "Here's £100m. Can we have him please". Call it what you want. Precisely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 This is from Percy's article... 'Champions City have finally tabled a huge bid for the England international which they hope will persuade Aston Villa to agree a deal, in the biggest move of this summer's transfer window so far.' It's behind a paywall but you can see it if you copy and paste quickly enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, useless said: According to Percy pretty much the most reliable source for Villa news, Man City have bid £100m, and he uses the word 'bid' not just 'offer'. Just checked…. Def says offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, alreadyexists said: Which tweets has Jack deleted? I just had an old tweet up of his from 2012. Saying about "Come on Utd tonight". I just refreshed it and it's gone. Edited July 30, 2021 by AndyM3000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Spoony said: This is my take. Has anyone actually heard the words “my club, my city” come out of Grealish’s mouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Other Mat Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, AndyM3000 said: I just had an old tweet up of his from 2012. Saying about "Come on Utd" tonight. I just refreshed it and it's gone. Could have had the decency to wait till everything was sorted. Edited July 30, 2021 by The Other Mat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, romavillan said: The fact that loads of cash can make players and players' family forget about allegiances is neither here nor there. Nothing would compare to the feeling Jack would get if he won trophies with us, nothing. It's a gamble for him, totally get why he would go. He could have a shot at something very special with us though and I don't believe deep down players with an ounce of a footballing soul don't know this. The thing is, do we really see us being able to win trophies before he turns 30? Especially if he has a chronic shin problem already that limits the amount he can play and we've seen how hard he is to replace when he is out. We might sneak a League or FA Cup if we are lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, ramshackler said: It’s an incredibly difficult , complex situation. the snake comments are ridiculous. Jack has shown tremendous loyalty to us and surely we can all accept (however begrudgingly) that a player of his talents deserves to test himself at the highest level. He doesn’t have many years left until he is at his peak so it’s not like he is 21 and can just give us a few years. on the other side of it, we are and have been for many years been over reliant on Jack. That isn’t healthy for the club, particularly when he does miss on average a third of every season. He has questionable injury history and an injury to an area which often turns out to be chronic (I genuinely believe there is an issue with the shins with recurrent stress fractures) the club have done everything to down play it each time it’s occurred but on each occasion it’s been 3/4 months out. £100 million for a 26 year old with that kind of injury history (with a currently managed problem) doesn’t seem like such a bad deal. We have to avoid getting dragged in by the romantics of one of our own. As hard as that is to say. Jack literally gave me my love back of club after a torturous ten years. we currently have an exceptional set up and recruitment team, better than we have ever had. If we get £100 million we can trust it will be reinvested well and in other areas of the team to improve the overall quality of the squad and becoming less reliant on one player. as much as it breaks my heart to say it, now is probably the best time to do it, his shin issue is still being managed and if he has another period out his value will go down and we will have another huge drop off in form. I think in a strange way it may be in our best interests (and probably Jack’s) that if a few can be agreed we both part ways. We end up with a stronger more competitive and consistent side full of young hungry and valuable assets, he goes on to show just how brilliant he is. I just hope we invest the money well in young hungry players and not waste half of it on JWP!! Quoting this post because it should really be pinned to the top of the thread. Everyone: just read the above post and get on with your day. Inevitably, this sort of balanced post will get lost in the endless assessments of the language used by social media knob jockeys, but it distils everything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted July 30, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2021 What if I say I don’t like the offers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, StanBalaban said: Just had a WhatsApp from Franny Lee's son saying £68m + Gabriel Jesus going to Villa is a done deal. Not sure if this is a joke. Frannys Lee's son??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted July 30, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, AndyM3000 said: I just had an old tweet up of his from 2012. Saying about "Come on Utd tonight". I just refreshed it and it's gone. How odd… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDVILLAIN Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I have to say im pretty sure he is gone now with all this going on. lets move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted July 30, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: He’s not deleted that one then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, bobzy said: Where does he use "bid"? I can only see: Well, if you read the article he also says a Grealish move “seems inevitable.” If people are going to be worried about what Percy says, it should be that line. Not a debate over bid vs offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) Earlier on people were trying to claim that Man City hadn't bid for Grealish because the article used the word 'offer' rather than 'bid', but now the artilce has been expanded and now uses the word 'bid' as well. Obviously Percy meant offer to mean the same thing as bid, but some were trying to claim otherwise, now it doesn't matter because he's used both terms and that's about as good evidence that you're going get short of Man City or ourselves confirming it that they have indeed bid for him. Edited July 30, 2021 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Hes 100% gone. I'm so sad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: 10 months ago. When he was signing a contract. Fairly standard PR type quote isn't it? I'm sure he meant it. I'm also sure that when an opportunity arose to win trophies he was persuaded it was a chance it needed to take. The latter does not negate the former for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, alreadyexists said: How odd… He's been doing it for a while. This is why social media is such a headache. Every move, no matter how innocuous is hyper-analyzed and speculated on. If I were him, I'd black out on social media until this was all sorted one way or another. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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