The RJW63 Official Jack Grealish Appreciation Thread

[KenjiOgiwara]

57 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

He laid it off to him.

In the time you took to write that post you could have typed villa v Bmouth highlights in google and seen for yourself. 

I actually googled douglas Luiz goal Bournemouth, but it didn't show. Either way the video you probably refer to is uk only. 

Thanks for the rocket polisher'esque responsen though. 

[Keyblade]

2 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said:

This is such utter horseshit. I've always praised Grealish when he deserved it, thus I will do the opposite when he doesn't. He was poor. He had numerous mistakes that led to counterattacks where we got off cheap. He is our captain and senior player and extremely well paid. He is always given the ball cause that's his role. Thus it's high expectations and demands. Criticism goes both ways. If the butthurt Grealish fan club can't handle that I really do hope we replace him with another player next summer. No player is above criticism. 

I've been reading three football forums tonight and all three are talking about how poor Grealish has been, so maybe it's a case of opening your eyes. 

I mean, you can criticize a player without calling a midfield performance that yielded 6 key passes and an assist "poor". Everything isn't black or white. If he's not amazing, that doesn't make him poor ffs. It wasn't his best and he was sloppy at times especially for his standards, but you're going way OTT.

Also, the Grealish fan club? So like, Aston Villa fans? And lol @ reading other fans' forums where the majority of them hate Grealish to begin with. They're always going to say he's poor, for silly reasons like his hair or his shin pads or some other dumb old guy irritants. The weird part is, some of our fans sound just like them.

[KentVillan]

4 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said:

This is such utter horseshit. I've always praised Grealish when he deserved it, thus I will do the opposite when he doesn't. He was poor. He had numerous mistakes that led to counterattacks where we got off cheap. He is our captain and senior player and extremely well paid. He is always given the ball cause that's his role. Thus it's high expectations and demands. Criticism goes both ways. If the butthurt Grealish fan club can't handle that I really do hope we replace him with another player next summer. No player is above criticism. 

I've been reading three football forums tonight and all three are talking about how poor Grealish has been, so maybe it's a case of opening your eyes. 

"butthurt" ... "open your eyes" ... you're a Grealish Truther aren't you?

[TheStagMan]

What did i just walk into?

 

Edited August 18, 2019 by TheStagMan

[Tomaszk]

4 hours ago, kurtsimonw said:

Very good player, but it's a big step up to the Prem. This idea that Southgate is somehow mental for not picking him as a Championship player for the England squad is barmy. 

Nah. Not when he was picking players who weren't playing at all ahead of him. Or sometimes playing left back and they're being picked CM ahead of Grealish running matches.

[Tomaszk]

1 hour ago, KenjiOgiwara said:

This is such utter horseshit. I've always praised Grealish when he deserved it, thus I will do the opposite when he doesn't. He was poor. He had numerous mistakes that led to counterattacks where we got off cheap. He is our captain and senior player and extremely well paid. He is always given the ball cause that's his role. Thus it's high expectations and demands. Criticism goes both ways. If the butthurt Grealish fan club can't handle that I really do hope we replace him with another player next summer. No player is above criticism. 

I've been reading three football forums tonight and all three are talking about how poor Grealish has been, so maybe it's a case of opening your eyes. 

"butthurt Grealish fan club" 

Off you pop to Facebook. This forum is too civilised for you.

Bye.

[Zatman]

4 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said:

Actually don't. If anyone got a link that would be great. I seem to remember it was Jack having the ball wide, stalling and not making the delivery in time / or potentially have it as a set piece. Then it ended up at Luiz. But I only saw it once. I remember Jack losing possession a lot though, and generally being an empty shirt running around. 

Have you ever thought of following Rugby or Tennis. Maybe football is not the sport for you

[Stevo985]

Just from the SkySports 3 minute highlights you can see 3 or 4 chances that Grealish created, either directly or played a key pass in.

[KenjiOgiwara]

Just now, Zatman said:

Have you ever thought of following Rugby or Tennis. Maybe football is not the sport for you

Just seen it now and I was correct. Grealish tried out wide didn't beat his man and passer backwards once again to avoid losing the ball. And people claim it's him "creating a chance"

Worst bit are the people suggesting he should be our winger on here. He is just not good at being wide relatively speaking. 

[Stevo985]

4 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said:

Just seen it now and I was correct. Grealish tried out wide didn't beat his man and passer backwards once again to avoid losing the ball. And people claim it's him "creating a chance"

Why are you putting such a deliberately negative slant on this?

Grealish doesn't even try to beat his man. He brings the ball into the box, dummies to take the man on and instead squares it to someone in a much better position who scores. Grealish's run into the box with the ball is what draws the Bournemouth midfielder towards him creating the space for Luiz.

I'm not sure what your definition of creating a chance is?

 

Edit: even if it was as you described it, why is passing the ball to avoid losing it a bad thing?! It's called recycling possession. I'd much rather all of our players did that then try passes that aren't on and lose the ball

Edited August 18, 2019 by Stevo985

[Keyblade]

What does he even want him to do? Skin the defender and curl it into the top corner from the corner flag?

Just the weirdest thing to criticize.

[TRO]

Luiz was square on...it was the right decision.

but ,should have scored that header.

Edited August 18, 2019 by TRO

[KentVillan]

5 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said:

Just seen it now and I was correct. Grealish tried out wide didn't beat his man and passer backwards once again to avoid losing the ball. And people claim it's him "creating a chance"

Worst bit are the people suggesting he should be our winger on here. He is just not good at being wide relatively speaking. 

Let me explain football to you. You're right, Luiz still has a lot to do, so it's not like Grealish has created a clear-cut scoring chance, but he has done a lot more than you realise.

Here's where he receives the ball. Notice where the Bournemouth midfielders are.

Now here's where he takes the ball. Have a look at where all the Bournemouth midfielders are now. The defenders have come deep and everyone is focused on Jack.

Now here's the situation when Douglas Luiz receives the ball. Look where the nearest Bournemouth player is. Why does he have so much space? Because of Jack's run.

To someone who knows nothing about football and has never played it and likes to get their opinions from places where people say "butthurt", this might look like a very basic backward pass (and as we all know, passing backwards is the work of Satan).

But it's a well worked move, and one that Jack has done for us before (e.g. Hourihane's goal against West Brom). Most wingers would be too focused on beating the man and trying to drill a percentage ball into the six yard box.

It takes a lot of skill and awareness to be able to carry the ball that close to a defender and still be able to look up and pick a surprise pass. Jack makes it look quite easy.

[TheAuthority]

10 hours ago, villa4europe said:

He created 6 chances yesterday, most by a PL player in a game this season

But our own fans are calling him shit 

Unbelievable 

He didn't score a hat-trick FFS. Bomb him out and make him train with the kids.

[MellbergsBeard]

19 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

What does he even want him to do? Skin the defender and curl it into the top corner from the corner flag?

Just the weirdest thing to criticize.

But on fifa.. 

[OutByEaster?]

49 minutes ago, KentVillan said:

It takes a lot of skill and awareness to be able to carry the ball that close to a defender and still be able to look up and pick a surprise pass. Jack makes it look quite easy.

Just on this - Jack is absolutely brilliant at making a defender (or two) think that they're in an individual battle with him; that he's about to try some trick or movement to get past them, like he's working out a way around them, that he's entirely focused on them and their effect on him as an obstacle to his progress, when he's actually focused on something ten or twenty yards away and he's waiting for a bit of space to develop or a run to be made by a team mate before playing a ball into an area that the defender stopped thinking about some time ago - it's one of his greatest strengths and one of the things he has that very, very few other players do.

 

[The Fun Factory]

Is it me or does Jack tend to start slow and get better over the season?

[abdulaziz1]

1 hour ago, The Fun Factory said:

Is it me or does Jack tend to start slow and get better over the season?

Actually thats our whole team in the last 5 seasons (excluding the relegation season).

[Skruff]

People are talking as if they've expected to see Messi vs Rotherham. 

He had a good game, except from the nervy first 15 minutes. 

[Dodgyknees]

4 hours ago, KentVillan said:

Let me explain football to you. You're right, Luiz still has a lot to do, so it's not like Grealish has created a clear-cut scoring chance, but he has done a lot more than you realise.

Here's where he receives the ball. Notice where the Bournemouth midfielders are.

Now here's where he takes the ball. Have a look at where all the Bournemouth midfielders are now. The defenders have come deep and everyone is focused on Jack.

Now here's the situation when Douglas Luiz receives the ball. Look where the nearest Bournemouth player is. Why does he have so much space? Because of Jack's run.

To someone who knows nothing about football and has never played it and likes to get their opinions from places where people say "butthurt", this might look like a very basic backward pass (and as we all know, passing backwards is the work of Satan).

But it's a well worked move, and one that Jack has done for us before (e.g. Hourihane's goal against West Brom). Most wingers would be too focused on beating the man and trying to drill a percentage ball into the six yard box.

It takes a lot of skill and awareness to be able to carry the ball that close to a defender and still be able to look up and pick a surprise pass. Jack makes it look quite easy.

Beautiful analysis