sne Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) Utterly predictable sadly. He will have a shorter career at peak level that he should/could have had if he acted like a professional outside the pitch. Being both a party animal and a professional athlete takes a toll and these days it just doesn't work. For long. Having a fantastic career thou and getting stupid rich so if his drive isn't the same anymore who can blame him. Apart from the guys paying him £350k/w to be world class I guess. Edited February 27 by sne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 13 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Or both players just went to the wrong clubs Grealish definitely didn't go to the wrong club, he won the treble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, villa89 said: Grealish definitely didn't go to the wrong club, he won the treble. So did Scott Carson. Depends if you value accumulating trophies that are won in spite of you or actually becoming a better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa89 Posted February 27 Popular Post Share Posted February 27 22 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: So did Scott Carson. Depends if you value accumulating trophies that are won in spite of you or actually becoming a better player. Grealish started in the CL final and played the majority of games on the way to the title, it's a bit different. There's no doubt he made the right choice leaving Villa for City. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 On 15/02/2024 at 13:18, VillaChris said: Get the feeling he's bored/frustrated from not playing much so will be more off the pitch incidents coming up over the next few months. Was same with us during lockdown. I also think he's going to be left out of the Euros squad. Southgate never rated him much when he was in peak form for us. He also had a bit part role in the World cup and the squads are going back down to 23 players. Foden and Maddison are locks for the creative midfield roles so if Rashford and Bowen end the season strongly then I just don't see how Grealish gets in unless Kane is the only CF named. Saka and probably Cole Palmer will be the other attacking options. England omission will hurt him a fair bit and probably mean he pushes to leave Man. City I reckon. He only didn’t rate him because he played for us. He hates us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Barely 5 mins since Pep apologised for public slamming Philips for his weight he’s publicly slamming Jacks performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Genie Posted February 27 Popular Post Share Posted February 27 16 minutes ago, villa89 said: Grealish started in the CL final and played the majority of games on the way to the title, it's a bit different. There's no doubt he made the right choice leaving Villa for City. 100%. He started 41 games in a treble winning season. People still arguing he made a mistake joining them sound like bitter ex’s. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 55 minutes ago, sne said: Utterly predictable sadly. He will have a shorter career at peak level that he should/could have had if he acted like a professional outside the pitch. Being both a party animal and a professional athlete takes a toll and these days it just doesn't work. For long. This. We've seen less talented footballers have far longer careers because they manage themselves more effectively. What I hate is that people are assuming all of this is witness to Pep's brilliance: Pep has one form of management and, in the long run, it hasn't worked with Jack. Citeh knew what he was like when they bought him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted February 27 VT Supporter Share Posted February 27 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Genie said: Barely 5 mins since Pep apologised for public slamming Philips for his weight he’s publicly slamming Jacks performances. And.... I think you need to put your stick down and stop looking for something to beat. Pep maybe over stepped the mark in his criticism of Phillips but it in no way can it be compared to criticising a professional footballers performances. Edited February 27 by Villan_of_oz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 12 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: And.... I think you need to put your stick down and stop looking for something to beat. Pep maybe over stepped the mark in his criticism of Phillips but it in no way can it be compared to criticising a professional footballers performances. By all means criticise him but having made the mistake of going public with it once I think he should have learned to have kept that feedback in house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted February 27 VT Supporter Share Posted February 27 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Genie said: By all means criticise him but having made the mistake of going public with it once I think he should have learned to have kept that feedback in house. I don't think Pep was that sorry, he just said what he needed to. Made the offended people content and he moves on. I imagine he is far more irate with Jack than he has let on. Maybe this is him giving Jack a message he needs to take notice of before he becomes the next Cancelo... Edited February 27 by Villan_of_oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 9 minutes ago, Genie said: By all means criticise him but having made the mistake of going public with it once I think he should have learned to have kept that feedback in house. I think criticising someone for their weight is probably considered a bit more rude/taboo/impolite than criticising someone for their performances tbf. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I think pep's criticism of Grealish is actually pretty sound He's not getting a run of games to get up to speed, the expectation of him at that level is to always be up to speed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 6 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: I think criticising someone for their weight is probably considered a bit more rude/taboo/impolite than criticising someone for their performances tbf. I have no problem with a manager criticising anybodies performances, it just doesn’t really need to be raised in public. The fact that Pep recently apologised for over sharing details about another player Id have thought he’d have learned about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: I think pep's criticism of Grealish is actually pretty sound He's not getting a run of games to get up to speed, the expectation of him at that level is to always be up to speed I find that weird tbh, like Man City players are the only ones in the world who are match fit from the training ground? I’m no Grealish fanboy but Pep has lost the plot a bit with this suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Yeah he's a highly paid professional athlete at a top club. He should be in absolute peak physical shape every moment of the season. Obviously injuries and sickness an exception. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 10 minutes ago, sne said: Yeah he's a highly paid professional athlete at a top club. He should be in absolute peak physical shape every moment of the season. Obviously injuries and sickness an exception. Yeah it really isn't deeper than this imo. If I had a squad of available athletes to play, what kind of message would I be sending to the ones putting in the work to stay in peak physical shape if I played someone who is not putting in the effort? That would be hypocrisy if I was telling the entire team that those are my expectations, and I would probably lose some of their trust. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 13 minutes ago, Genie said: I find that weird tbh, like Man City players are the only ones in the world who are match fit from the training ground? I’m no Grealish fanboy but Pep has lost the plot a bit with this suggestion. Man city's squad might be the only one that is... Thats the strength of them, they don't have to play someone who is out of form or off fitness, they have 3 other players they can use instead Grealish isn't up to speed then they just play a £60m player rather than their £100m player, like I said Doku doesn't seem to be in much either at the moment so they just play Nunes or Alvarez or Silva, it is a fairly unique scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy7211 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Grealish is world class. He's just been stifled by Pep's style of play. He's been asked to do a different job there. He did it very well last year, but he has dropped off this season. He's never been a player that had outstanding numbers of goals and assists, but we all know what he brings. In the right system he'd be head and shoulders above 95% of the players in the world again, on a consistent basis. Pep has changed his system again this year, and when Jack first signed for City he took a while to settle. I'm sure he'll adapt again. The partying is neither here nor there. It's not like Pep is calling him fat like he did to Phillips. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 34 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Man city's squad might be the only one that is... Thats the strength of them, they don't have to play someone who is out of form or off fitness, they have 3 other players they can use instead Grealish isn't up to speed then they just play a £60m player rather than their £100m player, like I said Doku doesn't seem to be in much either at the moment so they just play Nunes or Alvarez or Silva, it is a fairly unique scenario Match fitness wasn’t invented by Pep and generated in training. I find it strange for him to suggest players will get a maximum of 20 minutes to show they are match fit. No other serious club or nation would suggest such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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