osmark86 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Fantastic player. So good to see him excel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I hope we get promoted this season and build a team in the prem that plays good football just to see Jack fulfill his potential. He's almost wasted here in this league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Interesting to see the comments - I didn't think he was as good as he has been in recent games, wasn't offering as much of an option or getting on the ball as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 49 minutes ago, lexicon said: Interesting to see the comments - I didn't think he was as good as he has been in recent games, wasn't offering as much of an option or getting on the ball as much. The game bypassed him first half but he was much better in the 2nd half. I still want to see more from him and I think he has it in his locker to get more assists and goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, lexicon said: Interesting to see the comments - I didn't think he was as good as he has been in recent games, wasn't offering as much of an option or getting on the ball as much. It's hard for him to do much when the ball is sailing over his head towards our imposing targetman Scott Hogan. But when he does get on the ball, you can see his quality. Everything good we did started with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 It's not though - our main outlets are our wingers, Adomah and Snodgrass. It's up to Jack to make himself available to them as a short option - he has done that more recently but wasn't doing it so much against Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Keyblade said: It's hard for him to do much when the ball is sailing over his head towards our imposing targetman Scott Hogan. But when he does get on the ball, you can see his quality. Everything good we did started with him. 1 hour ago, lexicon said: It's not though - our main outlets are our wingers, Adomah and Snodgrass. It's up to Jack to make himself available to them as a short option - he has done that more recently but wasn't doing it so much against Forest. Exactly. When we hoof the ball, it's not an instruction. Bruce isn't saying "Even if midfielders are available, kick it long to Hogan" Hoofing it results form a lack of options to pass to and/or a lack of composure from the ball player. This is definitely down to the coaching most of the time. But players do need to make themselves available (and should be coached that way). It's not like Grealish was constantly in acres of space screaming for the ball and our defenders were just sending it over his head. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Exactly. When we hoof the ball, it's not an instruction. Bruce isn't saying "Even if midfielders are available, kick it long to Hogan" Hoofing it results form a lack of options to pass to and/or a lack of composure from the ball player. This is definitely down to the coaching most of the time. But players do need to make themselves available (and should be coached that way). It's not like Grealish was constantly in acres of space screaming for the ball and our defenders were just sending it over his head. I'm not talking about tactics and whether these are explicit instructions from Bruce or not, this is for another thread. I'm just stating the fact that the ball was frequently sailing over his head, for whatever reason which reduced his effectiveness. He's a number 10, he should be playing higher up the pitch...and it isn't his job to collect from the defence anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 13 hours ago, osmark86 said: Fantastic player. So good to see him excel. I will have a word.....good powerpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 17 hours ago, Stockport_Villain said: Caught between the devil and the deep blue see. If we don’t make it up he’s to good for the Championship and he’ll be snapped up. We’ve so got to get promoted this year. Yes. Important to go up this year for so many reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 All this love for Grealish , I'd be curious to know how many of these loving supporters were once deriding is every appearance . As as been often said , class is permanent . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I am still yet to see the big hype about his performances? I will admit hes playing better but hes not impacting games enough at this level. I really did expect.. with his ability.. he should be scoring 10 goals and assisting 5-7 a season. He should walk this league. He is starting to improve.. so hopefully he starts really firing soon. He holds the ball up well and draws alot of fouls. His biggest improvement this season is his work rate. So stoked to see him tracking back and working hard off the ball. I may be overly critical of him.. just because i know how good he can be. He has a good shot on him.. he needs to be shooting more and less dribble near the box. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 8 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: All this love for Grealish , I'd be curious to know how many of these loving supporters were once deriding is every appearance . As as been often said , class is permanent . What's this post all about, I wonder? It's important not to get carried away here - he's looked better lately but he's still got quite a way to go professionally and class is nothing without form. It's not just about 'having it', it's about 'showing it'. I think Grealish will come good but he's still inconsistent and needs to keep his head down and continue working on his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 i think he has matured a bit and tweaked his game (definitely looks faster) but i think we've started changed a couple of other things too his position seems far more natural, he was never a winger, the formation and line up we have suits him, a striker in front of him full of movement, 2 proper wide men playing really well, hourihane willing to move past him, his best performances in the last 2/3 years have been for an england U21 team that used him better than we did bruce is showing far more confidence in him, getting a good run in the team both home and away, far too many times last season we pulled him in away games, he looks settled the marketing has died down a little, he'll still be under massive pressure from the fans but he hasnt got his face on everything the club do anymore, think JT has helped with that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post A'Villan Posted January 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2018 Wanted to make my first post about Jack. His control, touch, shooting and through balls are a pleasure to watch. Happy for him to be such an influential part of some wins and in good form. Onomah will have to come up with something special to displace him, and I highly doubt that will happen as Grealish only seems to be getting more comfortable. I agree with KSV above, he has the talent and skill to be scoring and assisting in this league. I'm sure that will come though. He's had some very good attempts. I think anyone saying he wasn't very influential against Forest is mistaken. I'd say he was easily as influential as Adomah and Snodgrass. We created some good chances and could have had more than one for sure and Jack played his role in that. The weight on his passes is near perfect at times. Easily Premier League quality there. His shooting ability and placement is there for all to see, so if he can start to convert that talent and potential into consistent scoring we have a very decent player. From a purely potential perspective he reminds me of Wilshere. I think Jack can go on to be better but he needs the playing time to develop. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carewjust4u Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I'm still dumbfounded when I think back to how many times I've read that we should of let Jack go in the past. He's still got a way to go, but he's finally starting to look like the player we all know he can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Reminds me of a much more raw version of Eriksen. Obviously needs to improve his shooting, but his movement, and ability to drive forward makes me draw the comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 22 hours ago, carewjust4u said: I'm still dumbfounded when I think back to how many times I've read that we should of let Jack go in the past. He's still got a way to go, but he's finally starting to look like the player we all know he can be. Yes me too we all seem to forget that we let homegrown players got in the past and have gone on to do well for themselves at a higher level! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Think he will be key today. Expect barnsley to sit back and Jack will use his magic. Think he gets his first goal today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I had real doubts about his application.....mainly going to ground.....never doubted his talent. since his injury and it might well be just coincidence he has come back a man. He is showing signs of being able to be a real top player....needs to add goals to his game to really get noticed. I think he brings the best out of players around himself too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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