Made In Aston Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Delphinho123 said: Chelsea won the Champions League without Grealish last year and Leicester won the FA cup without Grealish last year. A large part of this is because they don’t rely as much on an individual as we do - Grealish. In about 10 years time Grealish's career at the top level will be over and the club would have to find new players to fill the void. Doing it now just accelerates the inevitable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: Pretty much. The lowlights are: - Alleged bid of £75m + add ons. - Which we are allegedly rejecting. - The club shop have got Cash, Watkins and Buendia as their lead three shirts front of store (actual proof this time though) - You can't get Grealish printed on your shirt. - But probably bcaus w'v run out of E's. - Rumours w'v lso run out of A's dding to th difficultis with shirt printing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Made In Aston said: In about 10 years time Grealish's career at the top level will be over and the club would have to find new players to fill the void. Doing it now just accelerates the inevitable. That’s one way to look at it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mazrim said: Now, I know for a fact that this is bollocks.. No it’s not Spurs just before our owners United last summer City this summer thats 3 times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Talldarkandransome said: If he goes then so be it, I'm a Villa fan not a player fan. I wouldn't wish anything bad on him as I'm a grown up but I certainly hope he/they don't win anything. Just for the record though, if you supposedly "love" your boyhood club (who are on the up) you would never leave. That's just my opinion though. He'll prob be a starter for England too ….like Foden? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoVillan1983 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Yes and no. These guys have put a system in place that allows us to move forward if we lose personnel. And I don’t just mean players either. Smith is a head coach and if he leaves, they parachute someone else in to exactly the same set up without rewriting the whole rule book. That way, we’re never ‘starting over’. When it comes to Grealish, it’s no different. Will they be able to replace him with a player as good? Of course not, but that doesn’t mean we can’t improve. I’ve mentioned it before but we’ll have stats, data and scouting reports on every single player in Europe and around £120m to spend (after Bailey arrives). The goal won’t be to replace Grealish, it will be to sign 2/3 very good players to improve the team. A very good left winger, defensive midfielder and no.8 will probably see us in a better place than if we kept Grealish and signed nobody else. Obviously, the best option is if we keep Grealish, and go on to sign a defensive midfielder but that might not be possible with the wages he’ll cost and the lack of transfer funds. Chelsea won the Champions League without Grealish last year and Leicester won the FA cup without Grealish last year. A large part of this is because they don’t rely as much on an individual as we do - Grealish. Then there are the issues with his shins. I’ve had shin splints before and it isn’t so much an injury, more an ailment. It just affects you and could come back at anytime. It’s completely unpredictable and not as tangible as say, a broken leg. If he moves on, it might flare up again and he may miss 15 games next year.. Leicester are a great example to follow. Get your scouting right and you can build a team and a system that keeps ticking along every year, even if you lose a Kante/Grealish. We’re also a much bigger club than Leicester and our ceiling is higher so if we can pull off what they do, with the right scouting etc. then a day will come when players like Grealish are desperate to join us. I don’t want him to leave. It will probably be the toughest thing to take as a Villa fan in the last however many years, but the club, and us fans, need to see the opportunity amongst the despair. We will go on, and we can get better. More fool Grealish for leaving when Mings steps up to lift the FA cup next year. UTV Even if he leaves, we’re still in a much better position than when he was in a Steve Bruce formation. We’ve been spoiled the last few years. We are on the up whether Jack is here or not. If he doesn’t want to be here, I don’t want him here either - so long as we screw maximum $$$ out of city in the process. I won’t hate him, I just won’t care about him or be interested in anything he does - just like my ex wife. Small club mentality is getting all worked up because a worldie is leaving us. Jacks value is basically close to as high as it’s ever going to get. It would not be the worst thing in the world if he leaves - even if we can’t replace him with another worldie. UTV Edited July 28, 2021 by ChicagoVillan1983 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, thunderball said: ….like Foden? Maybe he dont like him either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, thunderball said: So our own fans are lying now about the shop? why are they doing that? I don’t understand anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggy_333 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, thunderball said: Should we take it that McGinn and Mings are off as well then if they've been replaced by Cash and Buendia? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Yes and no. These guys have put a system in place that allows us to move forward if we lose personnel. And I don’t just mean players either. Smith is a head coach and if he leaves, they parachute someone else in to exactly the same set up without rewriting the whole rule book. That way, we’re never ‘starting over’. When it comes to Grealish, it’s no different. Will they be able to replace him with a player as good? Of course not, but that doesn’t mean we can’t improve. I’ve mentioned it before but we’ll have stats, data and scouting reports on every single player in Europe and around £120m to spend (after Bailey arrives). The goal won’t be to replace Grealish, it will be to sign 2/3 very good players to improve the team. A very good left winger, defensive midfielder and no.8 will probably see us in a better place than if we kept Grealish and signed nobody else. Obviously, the best option is if we keep Grealish, and go on to sign a defensive midfielder but that might not be possible with the wages he’ll cost and the lack of transfer funds. Chelsea won the Champions League without Grealish last year and Leicester won the FA cup without Grealish last year. A large part of this is because they don’t rely as much on an individual as we do - Grealish. Then there are the issues with his shins. I’ve had shin splints before and it isn’t so much an injury, more an ailment. It just affects you and could come back at anytime. It’s completely unpredictable and not as tangible as say, a broken leg. If he moves on, it might flare up again and he may miss 15 games next year.. Leicester are a great example to follow. Get your scouting right and you can build a team and a system that keeps ticking along every year, even if you lose a Kante/Grealish. We’re also a much bigger club than Leicester and our ceiling is higher so if we can pull off what they do, with the right scouting etc. then a day will come when players like Grealish are desperate to join us. I don’t want him to leave. It will probably be the toughest thing to take as a Villa fan in the last however many years, but the club, and us fans, need to see the opportunity amongst the despair. We will go on, and we can get better. More fool Grealish for leaving when Mings steps up to lift the FA cup next year. UTV Agree with all of this, Buendia could be exactly what we need. However we would still be better next season with Grealish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corleone Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Fairy In Boots said: Actually the bet runs to the end of this window You’re really wound up by this, mate chill out Yeah I agree, sadly the media in this country will fawn over it rather than ask hard questions about how this isn’t good for the game. on Greg Evans I find Bardell far more cringe he’s just desperate to be a media personality, he has a Vanilla personality to The bet was that Grealish wouldnt move to Man United before the end of the Summer 2021 transfer window. However i did say that you can donate my winnings to VillaTalk, you are welcome to go back through my post history for the quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mazrim Posted July 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Fairy In Boots said: No it’s not Spurs just before our owners United last summer City this summer thats 3 times Nah. It's not. He thought he had to be sold until NSWE came in. United he was a bit tempted as we we flirting with relegation but chose to stay without much or any persuading. City this summer is all rumour. I don't know what will happen but I know Jack has not to this point, agitated for a move. You sir, are telling porkies. 100%. Stop it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 He will never be able to manage this exit if this is what he wants to do and leave. I expect the level of vitriol to be that strong he will have to shut down his social media. Because he is what the large majority of us wish to be. A brilliant footballer playing for the club we adore. A few medals to us means nothing as we would get to wear a medal every week ( the villa badge) . It will hurt more than Platt Barry Yorke Benteke and Milner put together if he goes . He has a choice to make. That the Football 365 article put so eloquently. Be an ex aston villa player who will not be welcome back until at least 20 years after he retires or a club legend who will be the catalyst of taking us back to the upper echelons. Tough choices 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moustache of Teale Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: So Without reading the thread.. another day of hyperbole without any info either way? You’d have to read back a little way for this to make sense, but hyprbol probably best describes things. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, MWARLEY2 said: He will never be able to manage this exit if this is what he wants to do and leave. I expect the level of vitriol to be that strong he will have to shut down his social media. Because he is what the large majority of us wish to be. A brilliant footballer playing for the club we adore. A few medals to us means nothing as we would get to wear a medal every week ( the villa badge) . It will hurt more than Platt Barry Yorke Benteke and Milner put together if he goes . He has a choice to make. That the Football 365 article put so eloquently. Be an ex aston villa player who will not be welcome back until at least 20 years after he retires or a club legend who will be the catalyst of taking us back to the upper echelons. Tough choices Imagine being a die hard Villa fan and then every time you play at Villa Park you get booed relentlessly by Villa fans. That could be his future if it happened. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: He will never be able to manage this exit if this is what he wants to do and leave. I expect the level of vitriol to be that strong he will have to shut down his social media. Because he is what the large majority of us wish to be. A brilliant footballer playing for the club we adore. A few medals to us means nothing as we would get to wear a medal every week ( the villa badge) . It will hurt more than Platt Barry Yorke Benteke and Milner put together if he goes . He has a choice to make. That the Football 365 article put so eloquently. Be an ex aston villa player who will not be welcome back until at least 20 years after he retires or a club legend who will be the catalyst of taking us back to the upper echelons. Tough choices Funnily enough, if offered to most fans there is only one choice . UTV 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Can someone tell me what evidence there is that jack is leaving? there is zero news from anyone vaguely reputable. The closest news we getting is Man City are preparing a bid. Its been over a month of preparing.. It just reaks of the press trying to link the best player outside of the “big 6” to one of them clubs. Because it’s easy bait and a likely thing to happen. but this story hasn’t progressed. Just Twitter, reddit, lowbar journos and football bloggers chitchat, trolling and speculation.. also you add in things like pep saying there isn’t money a for big name striker.. which they need most. yet, can spunk 100m on another midfielder that they don’t need. the whole thing seems like standard transfer trash talk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: He will never be able to manage this exit if this is what he wants to do and leave. I expect the level of vitriol to be that strong he will have to shut down his social media. Because he is what the large majority of us wish to be. A brilliant footballer playing for the club we adore. A few medals to us means nothing as we would get to wear a medal every week ( the villa badge) . It will hurt more than Platt Barry Yorke Benteke and Milner put together if he goes . He has a choice to make. That the Football 365 article put so eloquently. Be an ex aston villa player who will not be welcome back until at least 20 years after he retires or a club legend who will be the catalyst of taking us back to the upper echelons. Tough choices Brilliant post! Barry still isn’t welcome back as far as I’m concerned! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 On 29/03/2020 at 23:18, Fairy In Boots said: You sure? I’m game but make it the end of next summer’s transfer window so 1st sept 2021 or whatever it pans out as, if that’s what the deadline is. I’d have took this on this summers window had the dates not all got shifted due to Covid. 4 minutes ago, Corleone said: The bet was that Grealish wouldnt move to Man United before the end of the Summer 2021 transfer window. However i did say that you can donate my winnings to VillaTalk, you are welcome to go back through my post history for the quote See above Covid was a factor in United pulling the plug. I will donate £10 a month for 10 months no problem 4 minutes ago, Mazrim said: Nah. It's not. He thought he had to be sold until NSWE came in. United he was a bit tempted as we we flirting with relegation but chose to stay without much or any persuading. City this summer is all rumour. I don't know what will happen but I know Jack has not to this point, agitated for a move. You sir, are telling porkies. 100%. Stop it. Spurs he has said he sulked over its collapse. United wouldn’t pay the money so he signed a 5 year deal. They’ve met with City I know that 100% why go meet another team only a few months into a new contract? I’m told he’s informed the club he would like to go, whether that comes out as a transfer request remains to be seen. Also mate I’m passing on info I’m told, I’m not lying I’m relaying info. If the info I’m getting is duff then I’m not lying then either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, Keyblade said: The point is he doesn't need to leave right this instant and has the luxury to wait and see if it works out for Villa. There's literally no rush to win now. Of course there is, he’s only ever one bad tackle away from never getting the opportunity again, and therein lies the dilemma. For all the hot air in here over the past few weeks it’s a pretty simple equation, at least where Jack is concerned, stay with the club he loves or go and win but trophies and play in big games. If he decides to leave it won’t be because he’s stopped loving the club, and it won’t be because of money, it will purely be because he wants to play on the biggest stage. Yes, it’s possible it could be achieved here but that’s 2-3 years down the line at least and that’s if we continue on our upward trajectory at a similar rate to that we’ve seen thus far. It must be a horrible decision for him, move and upset the fans, perhaps the family too, or stay and in ten years time be filled with regret (potentially). I hope to McGrath he stays, like we all do, but I think we have to accept that it may not pan out that way and adjust ourselves accordingly. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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