Shillzz Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 But £10m a year? Buying a player for £7m and paying him around £60,000 a week sounds like a pish compromise for selling the naming rights of your stadium. That's a bit like renaming VP to the "JD sports arena" just so we could have the privelege of watching Carlos Cuellar sitting on the bench. (Sorry Carlos) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Funnier still, because they have had a decent run of form they seem to have now decided they are a big time club on the verge of the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 10, 2011 Moderator Share Posted November 10, 2011 I was listening to a show on 5 live last night all about Newcastle and right at the end a local journalist hinted something was on the cards that would upset the locals, I guess this was it. Should it upset them though? Putting aside their dislike for Ashley and his pals which is pretty justified they should perhaps think it through a little more before they jump out their seats and spill their Newcastle Brown ale all over themselves. According to the program last night Ashley has moved Newcastle from annual losses of £40m a year just 3 years ago to a likely loss of just £4m for 2010-2011. That is one hell of an improvement and it isn't all down to the sale of Andy Carroll, far from it in fact. There is no question he has made mistakes, a lot of them and some very sizable ones but if they can sell the naming rights and continue to improve the financial position of the club is it a bad thing? People are turning their noses up at £10m a year but as I understand it the deal Arsenal signed for giving their stadium the name Emirates was only worth £6m a year on a 15 year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 10, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted November 10, 2011 Exactly. Ashley has done well to be fair to him. He deserves credit. Unfortunately (for him), I think he'll be one of those chairmen where everythign good he does will get glanced over or passed off as stuff that should happen anyway. And anything "bad" he does (like this) will get pounced upon and remembered more. Admittedly that's because he's a massive clearing in the woods. But still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I don't think it will make much difference. No one will start calling it "Sports Direct Stadium", it will still be known as St James'. If you want a name to stick you need to get in from the start, like naming "The Emirates" before Ashburn Grove caught on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanvilla_1994 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Im sure General said Randy would never condider naming rights He also said He'd back Mcleish :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Indeed, the General has said a lot of things over the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Dumping the name St. James Park for 10m a year seems like small beans, in my opinion. It's one thing to build a new stadium and sell the naming rights, but to strip away a major part of the identity of an old football ground for a measly 10 mill seems wrong. Leave it to Mike Ashley to take the shine off a really good start to the season for Toon supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I think people are overreacting here, Ashley is an easy target for the media due to his stupidity when joining the club like sitting with the fans and appointing Keegan and JFK. But he and his board and scouts has turned them around financially selling big earning players like Nolan and Barton and replacing them with cheaper, younger more talented players like Tiote and Cabaye (something i think our owner was trying to implement but failed). If for example Ellis Short renamed Sunderland stadium after some company their wouldnt be as mass hysteria by the media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I think people are overreacting here, Ashley is an easy target for the media due to his stupidity when joining the club like sitting with the fans and appointing Keegan and JFK. But he and his board and scouts has turned them around financially selling big earning players like Nolan and Barton and replacing them with cheaper, younger more talented players like Tiote and Cabaye (something i think our owner was trying to implement but failed). If for example Ellis Short renamed Sunderland stadium after some company their wouldnt be as mass hysteria by the media Agree totally, I see nothing wrong with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I think people are overreacting here, Ashley is an easy target for the media due to his stupidity when joining the club like sitting with the fans and appointing Keegan and JFK. But he and his board and scouts has turned them around financially selling big earning players like Nolan and Barton and replacing them with cheaper, younger more talented players like Tiote and Cabaye (something i think our owner was trying to implement but failed). If for example Ellis Short renamed Sunderland stadium after some company their wouldnt be as mass hysteria by the media I also agree..especially on the players aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Im sure General said Randy would never condider naming rights Didn't he also say he would post once a week and he thought we could come 4th this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 11, 2011 Moderator Share Posted November 11, 2011 Im sure General said Randy would never condider naming rights He said many things over the years didn't he.... Sadly the more he said the less I believed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 People are turning their noses up at £10m a year but as I understand it the deal Arsenal signed for giving their stadium the name Emirates was only worth £6m a year on a 15 year contract. i think it was more like 9m a year to be honest ash. and they get so much money from sponserships, high ticket prices which sell outs every week works out alot more than that He said many things over the years didn't he.... Sadly the more he said the less I believed. agreed he were told players will be replaced what happened there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Im sure General said Randy would never condider naming rights Didn't he also say he would post once a week and he thought we could come 4th this season Come on, that's unfair, we all know how close the 5 key is to the 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 im thinking of barca and the whole unicef idea in 2 years time newcastle can be sponsored by just about anyone (the fruit shoot stadium anyone?) and the heat from the geordie nation has already gone on ashley, hence i do see where he's coming from when he says it attracts future sponsors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Toon chief blasts heroes Shearer and Keegan in foul-mouthed rant Newcastle managing director Derek Llambias stunned Toon Army fans by unleashing an astonising, foul-mouthed rant in public on Geordie icons Alan Shearer and Kevin Keegan. The former casino boss — who virtually never gives media interviews — delivered a withering condemnation on the managerial abilities of the Magpies legends in front of startled onlookers in a Newcastle gastro bar. Llambias, who along with Toon owner Mike Ashley has enraged Toon fans by re-branding historic St. James’ Park as the Sports Direct Arena, blamed Shearer for Newcastle’s 2009 relegation and claimed there “will never be a right time” for the former England skipper in management. And in a blistering broadside aimed at Keegan, the Magpies MD claimed the former England boss is unable to cope with the stresses and strains of management. Llambias railed: “Kevin Keegan can’t take pressure. His f****** head is all over the place.” He also made a shocking claim in a meeting with fans last month that Keegan’s second coming as Newcastle manager in 2008 came about because he was the preferred choice of potential Arab buyers. He revealed: “Mike (Ashley) was selling to the Arabs and they wanted Kevin Keegan. “The Arabs wanted him, the fans wanted him — perfect!” A candid Llambias admitted he was at fault for recruiting Shearer as manager in April 2009 when Newcastle were battling to avoid the drop. Llambias said: “Shearer was my choice and I have to hold up my hands — the wrong choice.” Referring to the relegation battle and the managerial team of Shearer and Iain Dowie, he claimed: “Shearer, for this, destroys us. He gave all the responsibility to Dowie. Rubbish!” A supporter suggests “It wasn’t the right time” for Shearer. Llambias responded brusquely, and said: “It would never be the right time. Shearer? There would never be a right time in football.” When one of the onlookers suggested Shearer is arrogant, Llambias agreed and said: “You guys have given him that arrogance.” What will perplex Newcastle fans about Llambias’ put-down of the Geordie hero is the fact that days after relegation, Ashley issued a statement in which he said: “Bringing Alan Shearer back to Newcastle United was the best decision I have made.” Chris Hughton succeeded Shearer as manager and led Toon back into the top flight at the first attempt as champions (below, left). Hughton was sacked by Newcastle a year ago, and is now manager of Birmingham. He was also in the Llambias line of fire when one of the group asked why he was dismissed. Llambias responded: “He would never have taken us where we want to be. “That’s my decision by the way. “Chris can’t make decisions. If I am asking about a player, Ben Arfa? he says ‘I’m not sure, blah blah’. “With Chris, he couldn’t cope with where we are mentally. We are aggressive. “You need to be aggressive. I don’t want a manager below me who can’t argue.” But of all the colourful claims made by Llambias perhaps the one that will not be disputed by Toon fans is: “You guys don’t understand how f****** horrible we can be.” After last week’s act of soccer sacrilege at St. James’ Park, many Geordies believe they understand only too well. Newcastle declined to comment last night. Derek Llambias, the man who brokered the deal that made Andy Carroll the most expensive Englishman in football history, has sensationally claimed: “He’s worth f*** all!” The Toon MD’s disparaging verdict on England striker Carroll (below) came when he was giving a group of Newcastle fans an insight into the £35million deal that took the England striker to Liverpool in January. Llambias insists that Newcastle got the better of the deal. The Anfield club’s first bid was £30m and Llambias told the fans: “I have to admit that £30m for Andy Carroll is a lot of money.” When one supporter asked him “Is he worth £30m?” Llambias responded: “No — he’s worth f*** all.” He then explains that after rejecting the £30m offer, Newcastle refused to sell even for £35m unless Liverpool paid the entire fee up front. A move that forced Liverpool to ask Chelsea to increase their first instalment of the £50m they had already agreed to pay for Fernando Torres! Llambias explained: “It is about control. “We had the control. We knew the Torres deal was there. “We drew that f****** deal, perhaps the ultimate. “So £30m? F*** off! Don’t waste my time and I slammed the phone down. “£35m? Everybody including Pardew [manager Alan Pardew] all agreed. “But the £35m they wanted to pay over four years. It was rubbish. Mike (Ashley) said — and he is a brave boy Mike I promise you — get all the £35m up front. “We got it all up front and then they never paid us on time and we charged them 12 grand f****** interest.” story 1 story 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno_2004 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 ^ Nice to see some passion to be honest. He couldn't be more right in the second story too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Fair play - 12k interest for late payment, great business acumen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 In fariness to Llambias everything he said is true. Carroll isnt worth 35 million Keegan - cant handle pressure what he said about Shearer is true as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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