The Film Thread

[AVFCDAN]

1 hour ago, PieFacE said:

Saw suicide squad, first of all.... WTF was with the soundtrack? Felt awfully misplaced throughout. Really really poor choice of music through this film.

Their poor attempt to cash in on Guardians no doubt, also a last ditch attempt to lighten the film up post BvS slating for being too dark and moody.

Shame on all of you for actually watching it, it will still make a profit despite no one liking it.

[hogso]

Yeah, the music was horrible. Literally just whacking in well known songs every now and again for no apparent reason was so jarring. I took what Chindie said in his review with a pinch of salt, as music use in film can be quite subjective, but on seeing it myself he was absolutely right with that.

[kurtsimonw]

Agreed. I thought House of the Rising Sun worked, but otherwise not so much.

[MellbergsBeard]

20 hours ago, StanBalaban said:

Have you seen Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang? Another Shane Black movie and very much in the same vein as The Nice Guys, but even better IMO.

Not seen it, will look out for it. 

Cheers

[Zatman]

20 hours ago, villa4europe said:

Wrote iron man 3, last I heard he was trying to rescue predator, done some really good films, kiss kiss bang bang, last boy scout, long kiss goodnight

he actually starred in original Predator

[Meath_Villan]

Black snake moan ........5/10  for riccis jabs 

[tonyh29]

On 9 August 2016 at 21:35, Chindie said:

I'd agree with that.

He's got 20 lines at best and he's still one of the best things in the movie. He also does next to nothing.

And yet he outdoes one of the films big draws in Leto's Joker. Easily.

Hopeless movie.

It's weird how people see films differently , I thought boomerang was the weak link in the film , I almost cringed every time he came on screen

 

An Aussie being uncouth , drinking beer and having a boomerang ... They only needed him in a wife beater vest to complete the stereotype set 

[theboyangel]

I think I endured the worst film of the year last night!

Precious Cargo - starring (ahem) Bruce Willis - who looks like he was constantly reminding himself of his paycheck and Mark-Paul Gosselar - who, whilst has a name like a designer condom was probably the only decent 'actor' in the movie.

The plot was fairly formulaic (heists, double crossing, boat chases etc etc) and could've been decent but was denied by Oak-like wooden acting (especially the three main females) and awful clunky dialogue.

 

 

[Davkaus]

I should have read this before going to see Suicide Squad, what an utter piece of shit.

The pacing, the cheesy, painful at times dialog, the overflowing cast, half of whom may have well have not been in the film at all.

[StefanAVFC]

Saw Sausage Party yesterday.

Was brilliant. Some of it though, holy shit. If the things were happening with humans, it would be above an 18.

[V01]

Watched suicide squad last night, the good bit: Harley's shorts. Everything else was awful. 

[Ikantcpell]

[Designer1]

1 hour ago, Ikantcpell said:

**** yeah! Great choice sir.

[BOF]

5 hours ago, StefanAVFC said:

Saw Sausage Party yesterday.

Was brilliant. Some of it though, holy shit. If the things were happening with humans, it would be above an 18.

Sausage party animators were treated like shit

No matter how you feel about the raunchy animated hit Sausage Party, at least it's nice to see a cartoon theoretically aimed at adults making bank. Or, it would be nice, if a bunch of people weren't dicked over making the movie. 

CartoonBrew's recent interview with directors Conrad Vernon and Greg Tiernan features a pretty positive chat... until you get to the comments. Below the same article in which Tiernan brags about Sausage Party's miniscule budget (rumors have it at an insanely cheap $20 million), anonymous animators are coming forward to talk about the piss-poor treatment they endured at Nitrogen Studios.

Their stories are shocking and infuriating.

The production cost were kept low because Greg would demand people work overtime for free. If you wouldn't work late for free your work would be assigned to someone who would stay late or come in on the weekend. Some artist were even threatened with termination for not staying late to hit a deadline.

The animation department signed a petition for better treatment and paid overtime. When the letter got to Annapurna they stepped in and saw that artist were payed and fed when overtime was needed.

Over 30 animators left during the coarse of the production due to the stress and expectations. Most of them left before the paid overtime was implemented. This was met with animosity and was taken as a personal insult to the owners. Their names were omitted from the final credits despite working for over a year on this film.

Criminy, Nitrogen makes the video game industry look good. Telling people they're working for free is terrible enough, but taking someone's name out of the credits out of spite is beyond the pale. From the sounds of it, this happened to a lot of people.

Almost half the animation team was not credited. The team believed in this film and poured their hearts and souls into it. Despite this, more than half of it was not credited. You can see the full team on IMDB, which contains 83 people (and I am certain there are some missing). The film's credits, however, contains 47.

There's no excuse for this. You're dealing with people's livelihoods here. People spent a year or more of their lives making this movie -- they need proof of that experience on-screen to help them get more work, preferably not at swirling shit vortex like Nitrogen Studios.

Understandably, nobody wants to put their name out there and risk being blacklisted by the industry. But all the commenters seem to agree on three things: The people they worked with were great, they're proud of the finished product, and Greg Tiernan is a huge asshole. 

Working with Greg and the Nitrogen production was a nightmare for any artist, we believed in that project and stayed despite that fact.

I personally know & witnessed many other incidents during the production; such as an "Open Letter" to the clients, and how Greg threatened artists for it.

As the story has spread, more people have spoken up on various forums. 

-They fired the CG Supervisor mid production (one of many supervisors who got fired during the show) because he would say "we can't do this in budget" to Greg and Conrad's ideas. Which by the way both were the worst directors I worked with and had zero direction or vision. Their idea of directing was "lets throw shit at a wall until one sticks" so you would waste a ton of work until it gets approved and sometimes that would get unapproved in the future because they were in a bad mood.

-There was always this weird rivalry between the directors. Mostly with Greg because while Conrad was a co-director on a bunch of DW movies all Greg has under his name is the Thomas the Train episodes nitrogen did and he felt like he had to prove he is the top dog. He would get SUPER mad when he walks into dailies and finds animators talking to Conrad before he is in the room. He actually fired an animation supervisor over this.

Right now we don't have any names to attach to these stories, so all we have is hearsay written by anonymous accounts that can be made by anyone. A Pixar artist did link to the article on Twitter and pointed to the comments; Nitrogen's reviews on GlassDoor also line up with the Sausage Party horror stories we've seen so far. At this point, these allegations are just allegations, even if they're so depressing they're believable.

Hopefully word will get to Seth Rogen and the rest of the higher-ups so we can clear up this mess and get the credits restored for the home release.

[StefanAVFC]

Well that's depressing because the movie was so good

[villa4europe]

At times American employment laws seem years behind ours

[darrenm]

We have the EU to thank for our worker protection laws. Well, did, anyway.

[mikeyp102]

Finding Dory last night. It's not bad, some nice parts. Repeated a few jokes from the original but worth a watch.

 

47 Ronin at the weekend... Awful

[VillaForever1970]

Makers of the new IT film are not getting it if Pennywise looks like this throughout the film, what child with any sense would go near that??

[BOF]

Full trailer. Still suspect this won't be up to much though.