Wurzel Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 I came across this tweet this morning and I must admit I'm struggling to see the point of view, but as it is the summer and we have time on our hands is there an argument for what this chap is saying? Personally I don't think so, it is exactly the aim of the football pyramid for clubs to rise and fall over time. Anyway not sure if anyone will be interested in commenting but can anyone see anything in this point of view that is valid? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nick76 Posted July 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2023 He’s an idiot! 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheVilla26 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 I'm not sure why, as a Villa fan, the OP has put this. Obviously has sat there and thought 'what can I tweet that will whip up a few replies and interactions'. Typical Twitter, it's why I don't use it, people just put up shit to harbour any kind of attention they can get. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 I can see the point he is trying to make, it’s more about the sheer power of the PL now that with the exception of Barca, Real Madrid and possibly Atletico, we are able to go and take pretty much what we want from those leagues. I just don’t get the nastiness in the responses tbh, from people who are more than old enough to know better as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted July 13, 2023 Author Share Posted July 13, 2023 Well I would say that this is cyclical surely, back in the 90's Italian football was the place to be, so I'm not sure the person knows his football history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 He words seems to imply that they are to good for "little Aston Villa". He's wrong! He's probably just fishing for comments. Where does he think they should be? If in Spain, perhaps Lineker, Bale, Beckham, Cunningham, Hughes, McManaman, Owen, Bobby Robson and Terry Venables, shouldn't have moved from England to Spain either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 27 minutes ago, Wurzel said: Anyway not sure if anyone will be interested in commenting but can anyone see anything in this point of view that is valid? Nothing in his point of view is valid. I think the point he is trying to make, like a lot of people, is that the premier league is too dominant and the tradition super powers like Milan, Juve, Barcelona and Munich aren't able to compete anymore. It's all complete BS of course. Football changes all the time, in the 90's Italian football was the super league, now it's the premier league. Change is a good thing not a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Woody1000 said: I can see the point he is trying to make. I don't see the point. If we played Villareal or Sevilla (clubs associated with those 3 big names) we would probably be favourites. Sure, they played CL football recently, but so did Sheriff Tiraspol or Copenhagen. The sporting level of the PL is simply higher, and I would wager a club like Crystal Palace would be fighting for top 6/7 places in Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 will become a cliche soon....the PL is the super league that's why they are here, we have 3 genuine CL level people at a club who were what 16th before unai came? you could class us as mid table anyway thats the point that i think he's trying to make, the pull of the PL is villa's gain but its detrimental to everyone else in europe safe to say....**** em UTV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 I read it with a hint of sarcasm tbh due to all other other clubs fans moaning about our 'pull' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshVilla Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 I'm sure that this same guy will have complained about the same teams competing at the top of the league year after year. He should be celebrating this. Miserable helmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Maybe if the rest of Europe didn’t back their top clubs then there would be a more even distribution of wealth in those leagues instead the likes of Bayern, Real and Barca who had the biggest tv deals and to hell with the rest of the respective league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alreadyexists Posted July 13, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2023 What in Earth is he on about? clearing in the woods. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) I think he is seriously underplaying the potential of Aston Villa have and maybe over playing how big Emery and Monchi are. The word sleeping giant is branded a lot but the largest club by far in the Second city of England that were also European Cup winners in relatively recent history Unai and Monchi, great at their jobs and renounced around Europe but have done it with clubs of similar size and status to us, not really for any of the traditional big boys. Same with Tores to an extent. So whilst I get where he is trying to come from. His tweet is silly. Edited July 13, 2023 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: The word sleeping giant is branded a lot but the largest club by far in the Second city of England that were also European Cup winners in relatively recent history It was 41 years ago, I wouldn't say it was recent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted July 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, nick76 said: He’s an idiot! I could make cases citing club size, stature, history, legacy, fan base, potential fan base (second city) etc etc, but in the end.....indeed, he's an idiot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) As I often say, especially when Jack did what he did, it is villa fans who are often first in the que to put us down and ignore our true stature in the game. Doing the work of the, nouveau rich scab six for them. Edited July 13, 2023 by Captain_Townsend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: It was 41 years ago, I wouldn't say it was recent. It’s in my lifetime (just) and I like to think I’m still young 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 I think his wider point definitely has merit as this sport at the top level is pretty gross these days, but making it specific to Villa makes it an incendiary one that comes across more as a dig at his own club rather than football generally. It also just underplays Villa, I think the fact this point can even be made just shows how poorly managed the 2010s was by the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Villa are bigger than Blues? Mate... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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