Captain_Townsend Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Surprised there aren't any links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Just now, Jareth said: ESR is skilled, no doubt - and Don Unai would improve him, but he would be extremely expensive, would boost Arsenal's FFP position, and that business from before still leaves a bad taste. Would rather we pursued someone else personally. We're miles off Arsenal even with our improvement to be worrying about their FFP position. He's probably not much more expensive than he was when we were in for him last considering he's barely played since Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, HeyAnty said: I care. U don’t let people use you. Plenty of other players A tad dramatic, but fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: We're miles off Arsenal even with our improvement to be worrying about their FFP position. He's probably not much more expensive than he was when we were in for him last considering he's barely played since Are we? We’ve got more points than them in 2023 I think I saw somewhere. Also if Archer is best part of 20 mill - what’s ESR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Smith Rowe would be the ideal signing for that left forward role. All looking a bit sparse in terms of links to anyone though. Wonder if that's because we're doing what we do really well and trying to do business quietly, whilst waiting for some of our other players to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 8 hours ago, GingerCollins29 said: I think we'll make a deadkine dat signing. Last Summer we signed Donk and Bednarek on deadline day. But who was the last summer deadline day transfer we made before those two?? 10 points to the winner Libor Kozak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Not a fan of ESR and I think he'd come with a billy big bollocks attitude when in reality I don't think he'd get in the strongest 11 so as a Coutinho replacement I think we can get much cheaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said: Not a fan of ESR and I think he'd come with a billy big bollocks attitude when in reality I don't think he'd get in the strongest 11 so as a Coutinho replacement I think we can get much cheaper I've never had that vibe from him tbh. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Didn't ESR previously reject us to fight for his place? Has he given up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 17 minutes ago, Jareth said: Are we? We’ve got more points than them in 2023 I think I saw somewhere. Also if Archer is best part of 20 mill - what’s ESR? From an FFP perspective with them Inn the Champions League, yes. £35-50m I expect. Realistically £30-35m is his value but he'll go for more than that. We had a rejected bid of £35m 2 years ago, he's been injured and not played much since, so that's probably his value. In this market and with Chelsea involved, it'll be more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Just now, TreeVillan said: Didn't ESR previously reject us to fight for his place? Has he given up? I think he just never got going again because of injuries and being overtaken by other players who were storming it. The fact that it would all be profit for FFP might make Arsenal willing to listen to reasonable offers too. I'm on the fence about him but I trust Unai to make anyone a world class player right about now! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Are we actually linked to ESR or are we spit balling ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: From an FFP perspective with them Inn the Champions League, yes. £35-50m I expect. Realistically £30-35m is his value but he'll go for more than that. We had a rejected bid of £35m 2 years ago, he's been injured and not played much since, so that's probably his value. In this market and with Chelsea involved, it'll be more Isn't he all FFP profit for them? We're not going to get closer to Arsenal on a financial level by handing them £50m pure FFP profit. So therefore, in the words of Deborah Meaden. I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Jareth said: Are we? We’ve got more points than them in 2023 I think I saw somewhere. Also if Archer is best part of 20 mill - what’s ESR? Yep, level with Utd and only behind City. I would love one more in, but we've shown we are in a really strong place already and with significant more depth to come back from injury over the next few weeks. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/jahrestabelle/wettbewerb/GB1 Edited August 29, 2023 by rubberman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 I think our issue in recruiting a new striker is that Ollie is such a fixture in our side, and so important to how we play. Much like Spurs when they had Kane, recruiting a striker means either getting someone better (difficult/ expensive) or someone happy to play second fiddle (red flag). If you are a team who rotate their strikers a lot it must make it much easier 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 I like ESR and don't hold a grudge for him wanting to fight for his place. Its what I'd expect him to do as a good player. I think Emery could turn him into a next level baller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, TreeVillan said: Didn't ESR previously reject us to fight for his place? Has he given up? He rejected us to be made the new Number 10 and was starting or atleast heavily used for a while there. Then he got injured. The short version is he got overtaken by too many other players during his injury and now, yeah, it's a long road back for a 23yo who may never get back into the XI by the time his contract ends in his prime years (at 26). Good time to move on for player and club. Long version: By the time he came back from injury Saka, Martinelli and Ødegaard were streets ahead in his Wing and #10 positions. Plus he had niggling groin issues and other injuries, Arsenal signed Trossard and he didn't get his place back. He's since gotten over his injury issues (but also hasn't played to test his robustness) and in addition to Saka, Martinelli, Ødegaard and Trossard.. Arsenal have also added Havertz and Fabio Viera to ESR's positions. Plus Rice being used as an 8 reduces his chances at moving to another position in midfield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted August 29, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2023 We need a backup senior striker. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Nobody linked is a bit worrying. Maybe we're good with what we've got. I can't see what option is available that improves us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: Are we actually linked to ESR or are we spit balling ideas? Not linked, he's in the news because Arsenal are said to be willing to let him leave and Chelsea have already made contact with Arsenal over it. Brought up here considering our past interest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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