Loxstock92 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Oooo ooo ooo I know what this means! we’re signing Tyler Adam’s 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TomC Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Captain_Townsend said: Our idiot could have been winning trophies with us if he had shown some loyalty. He got to play in two major finals with us and that was when we weren't near the position we are in now. We were the coming team in 2021 just as we are the coming team now. If he had stayed another year or two we probably would have been further on than we are now. He took the easy option with a club that has won the lotto and always come for any good player we had since 2009. Such a slap in the face what he did to us. I'm not a Grealish hater, but...if he had stayed, we might not have Unai right now, and I know which one I'd rather have. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 10 hours ago, Steero113 said: Could be so brazenly stupid it's actually genius. The Inspector Clouseau of football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Jas10 said: ? What is this? It means every time you get a jump in salary, whether through a promotion, job move, inheritance, lottery win etc. Your lifestyle creeps upwards with the money. If you earn £25k you could be perfectly happy in your current life, perhaps want a better holiday once a year...so you go and earn £35k and suddenly the better holiday isn't enough, you'd like a new car and a 2nd holiday. At £60k maybe you want a bigger house than the one you've been happy with since £25k. Your problems aren't just solved by earning money you dreamed of a few years prior as your lifestyle creeps up with the money Same deal for footballers. They're just doing it with houses, women, cars, exclusive holidays, yachts and jets etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Random Retegui speculation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted July 19, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 19, 2023 45 minutes ago, TomC said: I'm not a Grealish hater, but...if he had stayed, we might not have Unai right now, and I know which one I'd rather have. Yes can't imagine why anyone would still be pining over Jack, he got what he wanted and we should be very happy with how things worked out here. He's just somebody that we used to know.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted July 19, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Jas10 said: ? What is this? It's a thing, google lifestyle creep meaning.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 49 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Random Retegui speculation Very interesting link - this is what VT and Twitter should be for. Looks to come from someone who is a journalist connected to his current club. Seems to be a different type of striker to Ollie which lends itself to the profile of someone who can play with or instead of him. A very Monchi type signing too. IF it happened would presumably mean Archer or Duran going out on loan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bannedfromHandV Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Thug said: This is a common, but completely flawed argument. How much is enough? Surely ones kids should be happy with getting a BMW instead of a Porsche? or a Skoda instead of a bmw? Or a pushbike instead of a Skoda? what is enough? You should strive to do the best that you possibly can. In 6 years, he can set up the next 10 generations of Neves’ - probably more. Enough is enough, anything more is greed. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted July 19, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Enough is enough, anything more is greed. You take what you need and you leave the rest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLillis Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: He's just somebody that we used to know.... Agreed. But he could have been so much more…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, villaglint said: Very interesting link - this is what VT and Twitter should be for. Looks to come from someone who is a journalist connected to his current club. Seems to be a different type of striker to Ollie which lends itself to the profile of someone who can play with or instead of him. A very Monchi type signing too. IF it happened would presumably mean Archer or Duran going out on loan. I do think we are looking at a different kind of striker option. Of the two, I see Duran going out on loan but I’d like to think we see more Archer - especially when he’s popping up more on our social feeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Loxstock92 said: Oooo ooo ooo I know what this means! we’re signing Tyler Adam’s I heard a Dirty Leeds 'journalist' on the radio who said they wanted £35-40 million for him.... Truthfully I did really Laugh Out Loud. Ridiculous! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Enough is enough, anything more is greed. 11 minutes ago, romavillan said: You take what you need and you leave the rest. Is greed always bad? You win the lottery of £20m but you only take £2m because that’s all you need, of course not. If you or I are living comfortably and bills are paid but you are headhunted at work with a huge pay rise and assuming all other factors are equal ie good work environment and all that, do you reject the job you have been headhunted for because you don’t need the extra money? I wouldn’t be rejecting. Greed if it’s harmful is bad but not all greed is bad and in this scenario getting more money is not bad purely looking at the money side of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicRic Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Only reason id be willing to now pay whatever for Diaby is the fact that our next option is Doku and thats far from a signing id be satisfied with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, RicRic said: Only reason id be willing to now pay whatever for Diaby is the fact that our next option is Doku and thats far from a signing id be satisfied with Is doku that bad? From what ive reaf he is a very good player but very injury prone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rodders Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 I will say greed is harmful if it is assisting the sportswashing of repugnant regimes. It is harmful if it promotes gambling addictions. It is harmful if it corrodes the integrity of sporting competitions etc. Yes the Premier league greed has harmed the competitive standards of other less rich leagues, and has harmed the stability of lower league football, when the odd clubs throws it all on black trying to get into the premier league. It's harmful in general when wealth is promoted as the be all of human attainment, as if it's the only factor worth considering. It's harmful when it turns football ( or sporting ) addicts into apologists for regimes, who due to aforementioned tribal loyalty will rationalise anything that supports their tribe enjoying success and demonise any criticism it faces, ostracising those who go "hang on a minute" as woke commies etc 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, The_Steve said: Random Retegui speculation Yes please, was reading an article in The Athletic last week about Retegui & I kinda hoped we were looking at him! Only really had 1 good seasons so far in Argentina but still only 24 & sounds a beast Mateo Retegui: The gluttonous goalscorer who Mancini likens to Batistuta Behind a paywall - https://theathletic.com/4673436/2023/07/10/mateo-retegui-mancini-italy-transfer/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rodders said: I will say greed is harmful if it is assisting the sportswashing of repugnant regimes. It is harmful if it promotes gambling addictions. It is harmful if it corrodes the integrity of sporting competitions etc. Yes the Premier league greed has harmed the competitive standards of other less rich leagues, and has harmed the stability of lower league football, when the odd clubs throws it all on black trying to get into the premier league. It's harmful in general when wealth is promoted as the be all of human attainment, as if it's the only factor worth considering. It's harmful when it turns football ( or sporting ) addicts into apologists for regimes, who due to aforementioned tribal loyalty will rationalise anything that supports their tribe enjoying success and demonise any criticism it faces, ostracising those who go "hang on a minute" as woke commies etc I agree at a very high level but Is there a difference between getting a big pay rise transfer to Newcastle or Man City compared to one of the Saudi clubs let’s say from a club on equal footing? Given they are run by these same regimes. Is moving from a PL club to us (Villa) helping the harmful now we are promoting gambling through our sponsor? The problem is where is the line of what is acceptable. Those of us who have cars that use more petrol because they are fancier, with petrol from these regimes…is it greed when we could had a low fuel or even electric car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 32 minutes ago, nick76 said: Is greed always bad? You win the lottery of £20m but you only take £2m because that’s all you need, of course not. If you or I are living comfortably and bills are paid but you are headhunted at work with a huge pay rise and assuming all other factors are equal ie good work environment and all that, do you reject the job you have been headhunted for because you don’t need the extra money? I wouldn’t be rejecting. Greed if it’s harmful is bad but not all greed is bad and in this scenario getting more money is not bad purely looking at the money side of it. Some odd examples here Bold bit would be more like you win the lottery for £15m but realise that you can claim an extra £5m if you do a photoshoot holding the ticket whilst in your underwear. You've comfortably got enough for life, there's no need to stretch, but that greedy little voice is saying "go on, do it!". On the headhunting, I don't think most people would take the gamble for a pay rise (it depends what "huge" is and what variables are in play). If I'm happy at work, love my colleagues and am happy with my pay, would I really risk that whole environment purely for a bit more money? For me, it's a no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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