Next Aston Villa manager

[Vancvillan]

3 minutes ago, bobzy said:

No thanks - why is Pochettino so good?

Here you go.

 

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

Got.no.clue who Owen is but...

 

[Tom13]

Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Got.no.clue who Owen is but...

Support from Purslow then? Get rid of both.

[KentVillan]

At this point I would take Dyche / Pulis / Allardyce… maybe even Bruce

[Keyblade]

16 minutes ago, bobzy said:

I think he’d be an improvement, but I don’t get the clamour.

To clarify, what makes him such a good manager?

I'll try to give you a detailed response. I'll skip over his Southampton stint too, which was impressive in its own right.Long story short though, he turned a Spurs team who were sliding out of European contention with the loss of Gareth Bale and some poor replacements into a genuine force in the league. What he did at Spurs is genuinely remarkable.

This was their squad in his first season. This is after he made some signings by the way. It was a bloated and unbalanced mess. I would say Vertonghen and Lloris were the only CL quality players in there.

His signings that season were (for 45m Euros):

Ben Davies and Michel Vorm in exchange for Sigurdsson

Frederico Fazio

Dele Alli (loaned back to MK Dons for the remainder of the season)

Benjamin Stambouli

Eric Dier

DeAndre Yedlin

Their main striker at the time was Roberto Soldado who they had paid 30m for (which was a LOT in 2013), and he couldn't hit a barn door. This led Pochettino to slowly blood in a 21 year old Harry Kane in the cup competitions (League Cup and Europa League) where he was scoring for fun. He gave him his first PL start against, you guessed it, Aston Villa where he scored a very late winner, and the rest as they as was history.

That was a running theme in his time at Spurs though, bringing through and developing young players. Under his tutelage, Harry Kane and Christian Eriksen in particular developed into genuinely world class players and Dele Alli was once on the cusp of such form as well. Danny Rose went from being not good enough for Spurs and loaned out, to genuinely the best LB in the league. Heung-Min Son, Erik Dier, Erik Lamela became very good PL players in their own right.

In his first season they finished a respectable 5th, with this as their most used starting XI. The seeds were already being sown, and there were glimpses of what was to come, though the squad was still very deficient, as you'll see below.

2015/16 is when it all started to come together. He made some very key signings that summer with Heung-Min Son coming in for 30m Euros as well as Toby Alderweireld snubbing Southampton in favour of Spurs. He'd go on to form the most solid defensive partnership in the league imo with Jan Vertonghen. Another key signing was Kieran Trippier from Burnley for about 5m Euros, to give some genuine depth at RB. Dele Alli also joined up with Spurs for the first time that season and he became an instant sensation. Erik Dier also emerged as a very competent defensive midfielder and formed a solid partnership with Moussa Dembele who found a new lease of life under Pochettino. All of a sudden, Spurs were looking quite strong and they were playing some breathtaking football at times. They ended up being genuine title contenders and pushed eventual winners Leicester City (still feels funny typing that), to the last few weeks. Remarkably, they actually finished 3rd in the end after Arsenal made a late surge in the end of the season, and soundly beating us 4-0 in our last PL game for 3 years. 

In just 2 short seasons and a comparatively modest spend, Pochettino turned Spurs from a team sliding towards midtable, to genuine contenders. And it got even better! The 2016/17 season would prove to be their best yet (and perhaps their best season for about 30 years? They still haven't topped it). That season they actually finished 2nd, with a whopping 86 points. They went unbeaten in what would turn out to be the final season at White Hart Lane, and had a +60 goal difference. In my opinion, second only to Liverpool in 2020/21, they were the best ever runners-up I've ever seen in the PL. They also played my favourite brand of football that I've watched in the PL. It was truly exhilarating to watch. They were the youngest team in the league and they played a very energetic high-pressing style of football that we saw his Southampton team play as well, but it worked so much better with the younger (and more talented) squad. And it was all down to the coaching, and notably done without breaking the bank which their contemporaries at the top of the league weren't shy of doing.

The next couple of seasons would see Spurs slow down a bit as they famously went 18 months without signing a single player. Despite this, they still finished 3rd and 4th respectively (something they used to stretch every muscle to try to achieve before Poch, and only achieved twice in 10 years, one of which didn't even result in CL football. They were now doing it in their "down years"), and most notably got to a CL final in 2018/19. A remarkable feat in my opinion. The wheels started to come off when Moussa Dembele left that January and their failure to replace him. With the lack of investment, things got stale, players (and coach it seemed) lost belief in what the club was doing and results suffered until he was sacked. Not too dissimilar from what we're seeing at Leicester to be honest. But make no mistake, the club's rise from perennial Europa League team and occasional CL threateners, to genuine title contenders was down to his work. It even led them to having the gall to try to join that Super League. It would never have happened without the Poch years. 

[CVByrne]

Just need to know who we can replace him with. If Poch won't come who can we get ?

[a-k]

54 minutes ago, KentVillan said:

At this point I would take Dyche / Pulis / Allardyce

 

 

54 minutes ago, KentVillan said:

maybe even Bruce

[maqroll]

31 minutes ago, CVByrne said:

Just need to know who we can replace him with. If Poch won't come who can we get ?

Lucien Favre

[maqroll]

We probably could have got Potter or Howe. But smooth operator Purslow went in for Sleezy G. **** tragic. 

[joshharris12]

Getting relegated imo 

[TheAuthority]

1 hour ago, Keyblade said:

I'll try to give you a detailed response. I'll skip over his Southampton stint too, which was impressive in its own right.Long story short though, he turned a Spurs team who were sliding out of European contention with the loss of Gareth Bale and some poor replacements into a genuine force in the league. What he did at Spurs is genuinely remarkable.

This was their squad in his first season. This is after he made some signings by the way. It was a bloated and unbalanced mess. I would say Vertonghen and Lloris were the only CL quality players in there.

His signings that season were (for 45m Euros):

Ben Davies and Michel Vorm in exchange for Sigurdsson

Frederico Fazio

Dele Alli (loaned back to MK Dons for the remainder of the season)

Benjamin Stambouli

Eric Dier

DeAndre Yedlin

Their main striker at the time was Roberto Soldado who they had paid 30m for (which was a LOT in 2013), and he couldn't hit a barn door. This led Pochettino to slowly blood in a 21 year old Harry Kane in the cup competitions (League Cup and Europa League) where he was scoring for fun. He gave him his first PL start against, you guessed it, Aston Villa where he scored a very late winner, and the rest as they as was history.

That was a running theme in his time at Spurs though, bringing through and developing young players. Under his tutelage, Harry Kane and Christian Eriksen in particular developed into genuinely world class players and Dele Alli was once on the cusp of such form as well. Danny Rose went from being not good enough for Spurs and loaned out, to genuinely the best LB in the league. Heung-Min Son, Erik Dier, Erik Lamela became very good PL players in their own right.

In his first season they finished a respectable 5th, with this as their most used starting XI. The seeds were already being sown, and there were glimpses of what was to come, though the squad was still very deficient, as you'll see below.

2015/16 is when it all started to come together. He made some very key signings that summer with Heung-Min Son coming in for 30m Euros as well as Toby Alderweireld snubbing Southampton in favour of Spurs. He'd go on to form the most solid defensive partnership in the league imo with Jan Vertonghen. Another key signing was Kieran Trippier from Burnley for about 5m Euros, to give some genuine depth at RB. Dele Alli also joined up with Spurs for the first time that season and he became an instant sensation. Erik Dier also emerged as a very competent defensive midfielder and formed a solid partnership with Moussa Dembele who found a new lease of life under Pochettino. All of a sudden, Spurs were looking quite strong and they were playing some breathtaking football at times. They ended up being genuine title contenders and pushed eventual winners Leicester City (still feels funny typing that), to the last few weeks. Remarkably, they actually finished 3rd in the end after Arsenal made a late surge in the end of the season, and soundly beating us 4-0 in our last PL game for 3 years. 

In just 2 short seasons and a comparatively modest spend, Pochettino turned Spurs from a team sliding towards midtable, to genuine contenders. And it got even better! The 2016/17 season would prove to be their best yet (and perhaps their best season for about 30 years? They still haven't topped it). That season they actually finished 2nd, with a whopping 86 points. They went unbeaten in what would turn out to be the final season at White Hart Lane, and had a +60 goal difference. In my opinion, second only to Liverpool in 2020/21, they were the best ever runners-up I've ever seen in the PL. They also played my favourite brand of football that I've watched in the PL. It was truly exhilarating to watch. They were the youngest team in the league and they played a very energetic high-pressing style of football that we saw his Southampton team play as well, but it worked so much better with the younger (and more talented) squad. And it was all down to the coaching, and notably done without breaking the bank which their contemporaries at the top of the league weren't shy of doing.

The next couple of seasons would see Spurs slow down a bit as they famously went 18 months without signing a single player. Despite this, they still finished 3rd and 4th respectively (something they used to stretch every muscle to try to achieve before Poch, and only achieved twice in 10 years, one of which didn't even result in CL football. They were now doing it in their "down years"), and most notably got to a CL final in 2018/19. A remarkable feat in my opinion. The wheels started to come off when Moussa Dembele left that January and their failure to replace him. With the lack of investment, things got stale, players (and coach it seemed) lost belief in what the club was doing and results suffered until he was sacked. Not too dissimilar from what we're seeing at Leicester to be honest. But make no mistake, the club's rise from perennial Europa League team and occasional CL threateners, to genuine title contenders was down to his work. It even led them to having the gall to try to join that Super League. It would never have happened without the Poch years. 

Thanks for putting that together. His time at Southampton was superb too. He got them really punching above their weight.

It's so weird how Levy just turned the taps off on Poch.

[Wezbid]

If Poch is even remotely possible then we should be throwing the kitchen sink at it. 

Absolutely dire what we're witnessing this season. 

[ozvillafan]

25 minutes ago, TheAuthority said:

Thanks for putting that together. His time at Southampton was superb too. He got them really punching above their weight.

It's so weird how Levy just turned the taps off on Poch.

It was when they were building the stadium, wasn't it?

[LondonLax]

14 minutes ago, ozvillafan said:

It was when they were building the stadium, wasn't it?

Yeah, the same thing happened to Wengar’s time at Arsenal. 

[TheAuthority]

44 minutes ago, ozvillafan said:

It was when they were building the stadium, wasn't it?

Maybe that's why we can't get him - the North Stand rebuild!

[Villan_of_oz]

3 hours ago, CVByrne said:

Just need to know who we can replace him with. If Poch won't come who can we get ?

I'll do it, first off we'll play with a 4231 and actually use the entire width of the pitch.

That alone will move us the table and not get us relegated...

Decent players are there, it's not like it's rocket science.

Sorry I'm not being snide at you, I am genuinely mad right now, sick of getting up early to watch utter crap and then going to work to think about it all day.

Edited October 11, 2022 by Villan_of_oz

[romavillan]

2 hours ago, maqroll said:

We probably could have got Potter or Howe. But smooth operator Purslow went in for Sleezy G. **** tragic. 

Yep, we go into that Chelsea game with Gerrard and we will be schooled massively by the manager we should have got. Howe is an example of what a good coach does to a team that was being very badly coached by our old mate Bruce. Next appointment will be the difference between staying up and having to watch Smith and Beale pass us on their way up while we go down.

[romavillan]

2 hours ago, Wezbid said:

If Poch is even remotely possible then we should be throwing the kitchen sink at it. 

Absolutely dire what we're witnessing this season. 

I really don't think it is possible to be honest, and we've missed out on Potter. We desperately need a decent coach.

[vreitti]

6 hours ago, Zatman said:

Only Wolves have scored fewer goals than us and Everton and Wolves have had fewer goal involvements per game than us this season

Come on mate, he's only got Coutinho, Buendia, Watkins, Ings and Bailey to work with... will need at least a couple more transfer windows. 

[Demitri_C]

Had to be poch. Promise him whatever the hell he wants.

If they recruited poch all the fans would be heading down villa park on his arrival like when o neill was appointed. 

We need that level of a boost manager to lift the whole club