Marka Ragnos Posted March 23, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Risso said: I love America and most of the people I’ve met there. It’s a wonderful country, and I’d have no problem living there at all. However there are two small [big] problems. No 1) Their cheese No 2) Their bacon. We’ll leave number one for now as it’s not really relevant to a thread about breakfast, but their bacon, oh my god, unremittingly shit, no matter where you go. I’ve been right off the beaten track in the States, and had some fantastic steak, craft beer, seafood, wine, fruit, vegetables etc etc, but I’ve never once had anything remotely passable in the bacon department. How can they consistently be so bad at it? You’d think that even one producer being good would see them dominate the market and make a gazillion quid, but no, it all looks it’s made of play-doh and tastes even worse than that. It's not "our" bacon. It's the pig's! YOU can slaughter a British pig and use its pork belly, and you'll have "streaky bacon" in Birmingham, too. We actually do "have" a kind of bacon in America that's similar to British back cuts -- Canadian bacon, although English rashers are much tastier. Of course, our pigs are specially created in wholesome, down-home, American genetic laboratories, so maybe our bacon IS our bacon, and yours is yours. TBH, I actually try to stick with this other concoction -- turkey bacon, which is also totally different from English turkey "rashers" -- to stave off the inevitable coronary in my future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted March 23, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Seat68 said: Perhaps they arent aware its bad, maybe they think its normal, like having no privacy at all in public toilets, they think its normal. I rarely if ever have bacon in the states, prefer sausage, which in my opinion they do quite well. Bacon though, they have to burn it to a crisp just to hide how bad it all is. no offence Merican Villans. A few years ago, one of my son's friends stayed the night for a kids "sleepover" and that kid ate about 12 pieces of bacon for breakfast the next morning. Some Americans really love the stuff beyond reason or wisdom, and I just can't explain it. Some people do like it burned, but mostly not quite. It definitely does not belong on a FEB. It should not even be substituted. It would be better to have Canadian bacon if pushed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted March 24, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2023 19 hours ago, Seat68 said: Perhaps they arent aware its bad, maybe they think its normal, like having no privacy at all in public toilets, they think its normal. I rarely if ever have bacon in the states, prefer sausage, which in my opinion they do quite well. Bacon though, they have to burn it to a crisp just to hide how bad it all is. no offence Merican Villans. they don't...the best you get is those chipolata things or a mcdonalds style patty. unless you've had drastically different experiences to me on the subject of american bacon, the only way i make it tolerable in the states is to stick it between a couple of slices of bread to make a butty...and they look at me like i'm crazy for doing it. and don't get me started on their attempt at baked beans but then this is a species that has waffles smothered in chocolate sauce for breakfast and chucks a load of sugar all over their eggy bread as you can tell, breakfast is the meal i look forward to least across the pond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, tomav84 said: they don't...the best you get is those chipolata things or a mcdonalds style patty. unless you've had drastically different experiences to me on the subject of american bacon, the only way i make it tolerable in the states is to stick it between a couple of slices of bread to make a butty...and they look at me like i'm crazy for doing it. and don't get me started on their attempt at baked beans but then this is a species that has waffles smothered in chocolate sauce for breakfast and chucks a load of sugar all over their eggy bread as you can tell, breakfast is the meal i look forward to least across the pond Big fan of a sausage patty, but whenever I have eaten breakfast in the states I have "links" and they are always great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted March 24, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2023 Just now, Seat68 said: Big fan of a sausage patty, but whenever I have eaten breakfast in the states I have "links" and they are always great. clearly staying in much better hotels to me then! though i do recall having a good sausage link at a diner in NY but i think it's closed now...evergreens or something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 53 minutes ago, Seat68 said: Big fan of a sausage party 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted March 24, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2023 4 hours ago, tomav84 said: but then this is a species that has waffles smothered in chocolate sauce for breakfast and chucks a load of sugar all over their eggy bread My MIL is American and made waffles for my wife when she was younger. Consequently we have them several times a year as my wife makes them for our son and they do make a nice treat. One of the local cafés also does a very nice French toast that goes great with a bit of bacon or some sausages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted March 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 26, 2023 The Mrs added ‘cheesy’ hash browns to our FEB yesterday, How we laughed taking her to A&E 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 32 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: The Mrs added ‘cheesy’ hash browns to our FEB yesterday, How we laughed taking her to A&E I've thought about it on the basis that melted cheese is incredible but it just doesn't and won't ever work, over Xmas my wife was having bacon egg and cheese sandwiches which were OK but not better than without cheese Cheese on toast with beans obviously, I've also done cheese on toast + bacon but with everything else thrown in it doesn't fit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted March 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, villa4europe said: I've thought about it on the basis that melted cheese is incredible but it just doesn't and won't ever work, over Xmas my wife was having bacon egg and cheese sandwiches which were OK but not better than without cheese Cheese on toast with beans obviously, I've also done cheese on toast + bacon but with everything else thrown in it doesn't fit Cheese in toast with beans and a few grinds of chilli is heavenly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Seat68 Posted March 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2023 Absolutely **** raging, 6% of people according to @ml1dchs graphic feel that there is room for a boiled egg on a full english breakfast. These people are the reason why we have child proof tops on bleach. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Hash Browns have a more valid reason to be on a fry-up than beans imo. A decent egg yolk and half a tomato should be more than enough wet for the plate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 Eggs getting a rough deal there as its split in to fried and scrambled Its one of the 5 pillars of an English breakfast imo egg / bread (toast or fried) / sausage / bacon / beans, has to have all 5, additional items make it fuller but take one away and it's failed To have fried egg at 65% and hash brown at 60% feels wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Eggs getting a rough deal there as its split in to fried and scrambled Its one of the 5 pillars of an English breakfast imo egg / bread (toast or fried) / sausage / bacon / beans, has to have all 5, additional items make it fuller but take one away and it's failed To have fried egg at 65% and hash brown at 60% feels wrong the lack of an egg, fried at best, scrambled as a request, is a deal breaker, as you quite rightly say its one of the five pillars, without it you arent delivering a FEB, you are delivering food on a plate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 48 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Hash Browns have a more valid reason to be on a fry-up than beans imo. A decent egg yolk and half a tomato should be more than enough wet for the plate. I’d personally sack off the tomato and have the beans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted March 30, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 30, 2023 On 24/03/2023 at 17:00, Rds1983 said: My MIL is American and made waffles for my wife when she was younger. Consequently we have them several times a year as my wife makes them for our son and they do make a nice treat. One of the local cafés also does a very nice French toast that goes great with a bit of bacon or some sausages. My missus is American. I regularly get waffles but there’s often also a side of grits. A substance I’d always wanted to try. It’s utterly revolting. Like eating dog vom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 30 minutes ago, choffer said: My missus is American. I regularly get waffles but there’s often also a side of grits. A substance I’d always wanted to try. It’s utterly revolting. Like eating dog vom. Poor cook must have caught the fits and threw them all away, so watch out for your corn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ml1dch said: I'll let the hash browns slide ,but remove the mushrooms , black pudding , tomato and beans and that's a perfect English breakfast .. Edited March 30, 2023 by tonyh29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted March 30, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 hours ago, ml1dch said: The 11% and 18% respectively who do not consider bacon and sausage the main ingredients on a FEB need to give their heads a wobble. Notice the cockneys have voted in the small print 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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