Tom13 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, Zatman said: backing from the spitter at least Every day I dislike that tryhard Carragher more and more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompedyret Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Hmmm. So I guess this was a great match for England not to use any Villa players at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Every day I dislike that tryhard Carragher more and more. even Gabby is having a go at his tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, Zatman said: even Gabby is having a go at his tweet I'd probably even side with Gabby when it comes to Carragher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 When does proper footy start again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gompedyret said: Hmmm. So I guess this was a great match for England not to use any Villa players at all. i think they dodged a bullet. Wow, that was a howler. Edited June 15, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 2 hours ago, rjw63 said: Harry **** Kane. Nothing but a cheating spunkstain. Can't stand the mongee looking cretin. I always thought spunk stains were quite Loyal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 3 hours ago, foreveryoung said: Listening to him on Talksport. He is blaming having too many attacking players on the pitch. I can't see this as a bad thing, if you know how to use them. Although, I really don't think there was, unless you guys can say otherwise. Media bigging him up for taking responsibility is just bonkers. What else is he gonna do. Also he's been saying all the players are fit and not tired. But now saying the players have had a long season and need a rest. The media cartel boys club. "its bound to come good....like a broken clock, twice a day" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 That was brilliant. Why do I laugh at England like they’re a rival club. Guess thats what they’ve done to me since Grealish left and Snozzgate drops Mings. How petty am I 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoony Posted June 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) Just saw the score. Holy **** shit edit: when I was a kid I would neither have found this funny or not known what the score was. I’ve never felt so distant from the England team. Edited June 15, 2022 by Spoony 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 For all this talk about this being a golden generation of players, you have to really sit and ask if that is the case. Look at the squad and tell me how many of these players are genuine superstars in their position in the context of English football history, other than maybe Grealish and the diver Kane. Other than those two, how many would even get into the squad, and of those how many woul see meaningful pitch time in say the 2006 World Cup squad? England have some good players, enough to win a modern tournament, but great players? I'm not even English so it's no bother to me, but the reality is that most of these players are overrated primadonnas who would rather be partying it up on a beach on summer holiday than playing, albeit glorified friendlies, for their country in a World Cup year. By no means an excuse for Safegate as the buck stops with the manager who is responsible for picking and motivating the players, but I think most of these players aren't really as great as most claim them to be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 minute ago, a-k said: For all this talk about this being a golden generation of players, you have to really sit and ask if that is the case. Look at the squad and tell me how many of these players are genuine superstars in their position in the context of English football history, other than maybe Grealish and the diver Kane. Other than those two, how many would even get into the squad, and of those how many woul see meaningful pitch time in say the 2006 World Cup squad? England have some good players, enough to win a modern tournament, but great players? I'm not even English so it's no bother to me, but the reality is that most of these players are overrated primadonnas who would rather be partying it up on a beach on summer holiday than playing, albeit glorified friendlies, for their country in a World Cup year. By no means an excuse for Safegate as the buck stops with the manager who is responsible for picking and motivating the players, but I think most of these players aren't really as great as most claim them to be. but that's what southgate supposedly changed, the good thing about him was the feel good factor with england, the players wanting to be there, he was never a tactical genius he was never even that good a manager but he could create an environment that these young players could thrive in now that environment seems to have disappeared what are we left with? a guy who isn't a tactical genius and isn't even that good a manager, I personally think he's not grown as a manager, the squad has and is getting better but he's not, he's not integrated new players very well especially the "young" attacking ones that england fans are all excited about, not just grealish ill add in foden and TAA too, he doesn't have a clue how to use those 3 players and all 3 should be top 5 players in this team i agree this team is suffering from the usual PL world class syndrome but they're still a lot better than what we've seen in the last week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) You can see the problem right here. Senior BBC football correspondent just said England need to find a way to incorporate a talent like TAA. This is why England constantly have unbalanced teams with players out of position. The press always expect all the top players from their favorite 6 to be in the team regardless of if there is a berth for them or if it makes sense. The logic is to play someone like TAA behind Harry Kane or something to "ensure that talent is incorporated somehow" Why is it impossible to just pick a balanced team with the best available players in their normal positions even if that involves non press favourite 6 players? Edited June 15, 2022 by sidcow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted June 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, a-k said: For all this talk about this being a golden generation of players, you have to really sit and ask if that is the case. Look at the squad and tell me how many of these players are genuine superstars in their position in the context of English football history, other than maybe Grealish and the diver Kane. Other than those two, how many would even get into the squad, and of those how many woul see meaningful pitch time in say the 2006 World Cup squad? England have some good players, enough to win a modern tournament, but great players? I'm not even English so it's no bother to me, but the reality is that most of these players are overrated primadonnas who would rather be partying it up on a beach on summer holiday than playing, albeit glorified friendlies, for their country in a World Cup year. By no means an excuse for Safegate as the buck stops with the manager who is responsible for picking and motivating the players, but I think most of these players aren't really as great as most claim them to be. there are some potentials, 100%. foden is pure class and when he retires i believe will be spoken about along with gerrard and lampard. declan rice is phenominal and the same probably applies. kane is one of the best strikers of our generation. the likes of trent and reece james are 2 of the best RBs i've seen. i'm probably forgetting a few too. we do have some big weaknesses though. aside from a few great RBs we are poor at the back. mings is the best CB we have IMO and i love the guy but when your best CB just finished 14th it means you have a problem. our GK department is average and we're not going to win games with kalvin phillips on the pitch. it's not quite the golden generation that sven had, but its the closest to it we've had since then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: You can see the problem right here. Senior BBC football correspondent just said England need to find a way to incorporate a talent like TAA. This is why England constantly have unbalanced teams with players out of position. The press always expect all the top players from their favorite 6 to be in the team regardless of if there is a berth for them or if it makes sense. The logic is to play someone like TAA behind Harry Kane or something to "ensure that talent is incorporated somehow" Why is it impossible to just pick a balanced team with the best available players in their normal positions even if that involves non press favourite 6 players? Gareth claims TAA is not a great defender. But we have never conceeded with him on the pitch. Go Figure...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted June 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 15, 2022 8 hours ago, Gompedyret said: Hmmm. So I guess this was a great match for England not to use any Villa players at all. watkins will never be a starter as long as kane is there, but definitely good for mings. he gets scapegoated by everyone it seems, not just villa fans. be amazed if he misses the next squad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 minute ago, foreveryoung said: Gareth claims TAA is not a great defender. But we have never conceeded with him on the pitch. Go Figure...... Yeah, fine, play him in his position as a defender if you think he's the best man there, but the press have to prepare for another of their favourite players to not feature in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Gareth Southgate is a great FA manager. He is great at commenting on social issues within or outside the game. He is great because he is clean cut and without baggage. He is great because he handles the media well, and clearly has a lot of friends within media circles. he is great because he is a cost effective manager for the FA. What he isn't is a great football manager. The FA need to decide where their priorities lie. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Didn't watch and didn't follow anywhere, just woke up to see this Lol Gareth you world class manager you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Its karma for Jimmy Hogan. If you don't know what that means look it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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