CVByrne Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 We do need him back. Does seem like he may not be back this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burchy Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 I think his injury history this season is the reason we’ve potentially being looking at DMs like Ugarte so if he does get injured we have more cover Let’s get in Ugochukwu as he’s a monster. Kamara is class though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Sadly, our best player seems to be injury prone. Hope he grows out of it but it looks likely that we will only see him in patches. Definitely need another DM in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 minute ago, GlobalVillan said: Sadly, our best player seems to be injury prone. Hope he grows out of it but it looks likely that we will only see him in patches. Definitely need another DM in the summer. Nah. Just bad luck . He had a good injury record at Marseille. . Its the hamstring pulls and thigh pulls that i judge a player on . And Kamara doesnt get those. Naturally fit but he has had some contact injuries which you cannot judge him on . Because he is brave and gets stuck in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Could be an old pic, his Instagram pic from Eid doesn't show him with the boot or could just be precautionary... Here's hoping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 8 hours ago, GlobalVillan said: Sadly, our best player seems to be injury prone. Hope he grows out of it but it looks likely that we will only see him in patches. Definitely need another DM in the summer. He got his ankle folded by dirty tackle from behind from a guy that then got sent off. Can't remember the knee, was that a tackle? He's not shown much before that shows him to be a sick note. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Horrible thought, but it keeps him out of the shop window and ready to go for next season. Clouds, silver linings etc. We basically had a world class DM quietly gain almost a season's worth of PL experience. Let Ollie get the headlines for now, but make no mistake, Bouba is our best player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Horrible thought, but it keeps him out of the shop window and ready to go for next season. Clouds, silver linings etc. We basically had a world class DM quietly gain almost a season's worth of PL experience. Let Ollie get the headlines for now, but make no mistake, Bouba is our best player. Good point actually. I think (especially if we don’t get Europe) our players will be attracting some interest this summer, I’m thinking mainly Martinez, Watkins, Luiz and maybe Ramsey. Poor injury record for this season will hopefully put clubs off Kamara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Tomaszk said: He got his ankle folded by dirty tackle from behind from a guy that then got sent off. Can't remember the knee, was that a tackle? He's not shown much before that shows him to be a sick note. His other injury was a clash vs Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: Horrible thought, but it keeps him out of the shop window and ready to go for next season. Clouds, silver linings etc. We basically had a world class DM quietly gain almost a season's worth of PL experience. Let Ollie get the headlines for now, but make no mistake, Bouba is our best player. Only signed to 2027 and we're not a selling club 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Kiwivillan said: Only signed to 2027 and we're not a selling club Unfortunately there are only 2-3 clubs in prem that are not selling clubs. We aren’t one of them. For example a top CL team comes in with a crazy offer for Martinez. He most likely will want to go. Be very little we can do other than maybe get a few more million out of it. Until we make CL minimum, that will be the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, HeyAnty said: Unfortunately there are only 2-3 clubs in prem that are not selling clubs. We aren’t one of them. For example a top CL team comes in with a crazy offer for Martinez. He most likely will want to go. Be very little we can do other than maybe get a few more million out of it. Until we make CL minimum, that will be the way it is. If people want to be doom and gloom merchants at every imagined hypothetical that's on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Kiwivillan said: If people want to be doom and gloom merchants at every imagined hypothetical that's on them Sure, but I think it's fair to say that we're not exactly in the position of being able to refuse massive offers for our players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 38 minutes ago, bobzy said: Sure, but I think it's fair to say that we're not exactly in the position of being able to refuse massive offers for our players. People inventing negativity narratives. So tedious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: People inventing negativity narratives. So tedious "We're not a selling club" is probably not true though. I don't think it's inventing a negative narrative to say that if a top CL team comes in with a crazy bid for Martinez, we would likely accept and he would likely move. There's no doom and gloom there - that's just the reality of where we are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Don't like the phrase 'not a selling club'. If a player wants to leave you, everyone becomes a selling club. Real Madrid and Barcelona probably the only clubs who can near enough guarantee to keep the best players at their peaks. Just look at Ronaldo and Suarez leaving Man Utd and Liverpool at their peaks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, bobzy said: "We're not a selling club" is probably not true though. I don't think it's inventing a negative narrative to say that if a top CL team comes in with a crazy bid for Martinez, we would likely accept and he would likely move. There's no doom and gloom there - that's just the reality of where we are. I don't think we are a selling club but of course if we get offered crazy money for a key player we consider it, that's just sensible and the economics of football. But since promotion we've only sold one key player (Grealish) and got a British record fee for him. The last time we sold a key player before that was 2015 (Benteke, Delph) and we were under a shambles of an ownership back then so has no relevance to today. Players like Ramsey, Watkins, Kamara, Martinez etc will very likely stay this summer because they won't be for sale, if a team offers silly money that is way above what they're worth then maybe we will but as long as we reinvest the money wisely we'll be fine. I also think only the very top teams can attract our players which limits where they can go. For example, the only club in the premier league where you are guaranteed to win trophies is Man City and they already have quality players in every position anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Leeroy said: I don't think we are a selling club but of course if we get offered crazy money for a key player we consider it, that's just sensible and the economics of football. But since promotion we've only sold one key player (Grealish) and got a British record fee for him. The last time we sold a key player before that was 2015 (Benteke, Delph) and we were under a shambles of an ownership back then so has no relevance to today. Players like Ramsey, Watkins, Kamara, Martinez etc will very likely stay this summer because they won't be for sale, if a team offers silly money that is way above what they're worth then maybe we will but as long as we reinvest the money wisely we'll be fine. I also think only the very top teams can attract our players which limits where they can go. For example, the only club in the premier league where you are guaranteed to win trophies is Man City and they already have quality players in every position anyway. I think we've only had one key player up until now - and, as you say, we sold him. It's different now because we've got a first team squad that largely, in my opinion, doesn't need much tweaking. Instead of needing to replace, say, 8 players to improve, we'd probably be looking at 2 or 3. So more of a challenge now, assuming that people would be looking at Villa players. The one plus side of being a good Premier League team is that players will only go for silly money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Two and a half weeks ago Kamara, Cash and Coutinho were all supposedly due back in 10-14 days, and yet here we have Boubacar still walking round in a protective boot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 42 minutes ago, bobzy said: I think we've only had one key player up until now - and, as you say, we sold him. It's different now because we've got a first team squad that largely, in my opinion, doesn't need much tweaking. Instead of needing to replace, say, 8 players to improve, we'd probably be looking at 2 or 3. So more of a challenge now, assuming that people would be looking at Villa players. The one plus side of being a good Premier League team is that players will only go for silly money. Martinez has been very good for a while and argentina's no 1 for two years now. Luiz nearly went to arsenal but ended up signing a new deal. Watkins and mcginn have been linked with big money moves before but stayed. So I'd say they possibly could have moved but didn't. I think unless it's Man City who comes in our players invariably stay - I don't think we've ever sold a key player to Arsenal, Spurs or Chelsea and Man U haven't signed our best players since Young back in 2011 when they were top dogs under Fergie. Liverpool signed Benteke in 2015 but don't tend to pay big money for players so don't see us selling anyone to them. Kamara is a very good player but even if he were fit I don't think any team would be putting in £70m+ bids for him which is minimum we'd sell given his contract length. Definitely think someone like Ugarte would be a good signing this summer for us given Kamara's injuries this season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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