JB Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 We need to pull the trigger quickly and decisively if our ambitions are indeed as stated. I can see West Ham’s owners getting restless and we want the pick of the available managers. It would be typical if they sack Moyes first and pick up Pochettino. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) The thing is. Gerrard isn't a great coach. He already admitted that he has relied on Beale for most of the coaching and tactics. So if he doesn't coach how are we supposed to believe in the football improving? Edited August 21, 2022 by Pinebro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 4 hours ago, VillaParkAvenue said: The Athletic today have a big feature on the average age of new signings at the Premier League clubs during the last ten years. Villa’s signings have been relatively old seen over the ten year period which surprised me a bit. But the Gerrard effect is obvious as well. ”When it comes to the impact a current manager has had on the age profile of a club’s signings, Steven Gerrard’s brief time at Villa so far has marked one of the most drastic changes in transfer strategy.” https://theathletic.com/3516067/2022/08/21/age-profile-signings-premier-league/?source=user_shared_article We’re doing an Everton under Gerrard’s stewardship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Pinebro said: The thing is. Gerrard isn't a great coach. He already admitted that he has relied on Beale for most of the coaching and tactics. So if he doesn't coach how are we supposed to believe in the football improving? Neil critchley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 28 minutes ago, maqroll said: It appears that his only applicable talent is convincing players to sign on the dotted line. We could just send him around the world dressed in a furry lion suit and a set of pens. Sorted. Maybe we should move him upstairs? He could be Lange’s closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Just now, IrishVilla10 said: Neil critchley If we’re relaying on a newly appointed coach instead of the actual manager to change the way we play, then best just getting rid of Gerrard now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Let's look at Gerrard's position positively for a moment. When SG was appointed as head coach the hope was that his appointment would raise the profile of AVFC. We also hoped that he would be able to attract a higher level of players to the club. He's been a successful appointment if we apply just those two criteria. We also hoped that by bringing in his full coaching staff he would hit the ground running and relearn the Premier League necessities quickly. However, after an initial new manager bounce, Gerrard's coaching and tactical ability has come under the microscope and he has so far come up short of what is required. So here's the positive part .... SG has raised our profile, he's attracted better players to sign for Villa, and has made other players aware of us as a possible destination in the near future .... so that part of his role has been successful. If our owners share our concerns about Gerrard's apparent inability to get the best out of our players tactically then we are currently in a strong position to upgrade him. Taking over the reins from a big footballing name is more attractive than replacing a lesser known failing manager. If the right calibre of manager/head coach is identified and available then this would be another positive change and a progressive step in the business plan. The last thing NSWE need is to lose the large gain that has been recently attained in raising our media profile, by persevering with very mediocre football and poor results. Gerrard needs an immediate run of wins and draws against some very good teams in the next few weeks, or a positive change will be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 36 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I'm not a big fan of comparing managers to current flavour of the month, but if you look at the positive changes Newcastle, Palace and Leeds have had with a change of manager compared to us it really doesn't shine a positive light on Gerrard. The problem that I think Gerrard has is he doesn’t believe his own ‘philosophy’ he’s chopped and changed the team and his formation tactics too many times. the managers you’ve mentioned have stuck to their beliefs. And played the same way. Gerrard is going to end up like lambert. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 It’s clear that Gerrard is not experienced enough to be a manager at this level, it’s going to take years before he is. So, it would be wise from the club to be looking around for a replacement ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Please get rid of this spoofer. What’s the point of appointing a manager when his assistant is expected to do all the work? He’s just a bloody spokesperson. Lost without Beale (who wasn’t great anyway) and now expecting Critchley to do all the heavy lifting. These guys are nothing special anyway… not for the PL. We’re a complete mess, I’m shocked at how clueless he is. What is he even being paid so handsomely to do? Crazy to risk everything on a “name” or based on someone’s reputation as a player… madness. 1 trophy out of 10 in Scotland? Wow! Amazing! We have players like Kamara, Luiz, Buendia, Coutinho, Bailey who can all help in build up play and provide plenty of creativity. Yet we rely on our fullbacks and bypass or drop the players that could actually be effective in possession and actually create something for the forwards… Midfield is non existent. The vast majority of problems lie with the ineptitude of the manager rather than any shortcomings in personnel. He simply doesn’t know what he is doing nor what his best side or best players are. It’s completely aimless. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 minute ago, CarryOnVilla said: It’s clear that Gerrard is not experienced enough to be a manager at this level, it’s going to take years before he is. So, it would be wise from the club to be looking around for a replacement ASAP Not sure how a gig in Sky Sports is going to up his game over the next few years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, duke313 said: If we’re relaying on a newly appointed coach instead of the actual manager to change the way we play, then best just getting rid of Gerrard now. 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, duke313 said: If we’re relaying on a newly appointed coach instead of the actual manager to change the way we play, then best just getting rid of Gerrard now. Yep. What happens if we massively turn it round and have a brilliant season? I tell you what, someone like Brighton come in for Critchley when Potter leaves. He goes and we're left with Gerrard looking players in the eye again. We have absolutely nothing with him. Shocking appointment from the off. Embarrassing. Hope the owners have some analysis fed back to them that isn't from Purslow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphinho123 Posted August 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2022 So far, he’s played Ings up top on his own. Watkins up top on his own. Both of them together. He’s dropped our best centre half and publicly stripped him of the captaincy. He’s dropped Konsa and then brought him back in. He’s played Coutinho as a single No.10 and he’s played him as a two with Bailey. He’s now trying Buendia alongside Bailey and Coutinho has been dropped. He’s hauled off a player at half time in the first match and given the captaincy to our worst starting outfield player. Do these actions strike you as the actions of a man that has any idea what he’s doing? Why did we bother with pre-season? What was the point? Where was the planning? He has absolutely no idea who to play and where to play them. He’s a cretin. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiney Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Didn't like him as a player, didn't want him here as manager and he has done nothing to change my mind. The football is reminiscent of the Remi Garde days except with a far superior squad. Watching the likes of Leeds playing high pressure and expansive football just really highlights how far away we are from competing in this league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, villabromsgrove said: Let's look at Gerrard's position positively for a moment. When SG was appointed as head coach the hope was that his appointment would raise the profile of AVFC. We also hoped that he would be able to attract a higher level of players to the club. He's been a successful appointment if we apply just those two criteria. We also hoped that by bringing in his full coaching staff he would hit the ground running and relearn the Premier League necessities quickly. However, after an initial new manager bounce, Gerrard's coaching and tactical ability has come under the microscope and he has so far come up short of what is required. So here's the positive part .... SG has raised our profile, he's attracted better players to sign for Villa, and has made other players aware of us as a possible destination in the near future .... so that part of his role has been successful. If our owners share our concerns about Gerrard's apparent inability to get the best out of our players tactically then we are currently in a strong position to upgrade him. Taking over the reins from a big footballing name is more attractive than replacing a lesser known failing manager. If the right calibre of manager/head coach is identified and available then this would be another positive change and a progressive step in the business plan. The last thing NSWE need is to lose the large gain that has been recently attained in raising our media profile, by persevering with very mediocre football and poor results. Gerrard needs an immediate run of wins and draws against some very good teams in the next few weeks, or a positive change will be made. Like who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Just now, DCJonah said: Like who? That's what NSWE pay good wages to the data base research guys for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphinho123 Posted August 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: Like who? I think people are really blurring the lines on Gerrard being able to attract players and the club chucking shed loads of money at them. Not sure Gerrard has as much pull as £150k a week in your bank. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted August 21, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I'm not a big fan of comparing managers to current flavour of the month, but if you look at the positive changes Newcastle, Palace and Leeds have had with a change of manager compared to us it really doesn't shine a positive light on Gerrard. Absolutely this. Gerrard, along with Lampard have been utter failures so far. Edited August 21, 2022 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Disgraceful from the manager and captain… not to even acknowledge the support… fans who have had to spend their hard earned money and take the time and hassle out to travel and see that kind of shite… after the Bournemouth game too… guess they were too ashamed or it was a case of bruised egos… pretty shit from the guys who are supposed to be representing our club… Both not fit for their jobs, McGinn is never a captain and SG is a poor excuse for a manager. Apparently, Mings was one of the few that actually made that small amount of effort and went over to applaud the fans… what a stupid decision to take the armband off him and gift it to a guy who is completed overwhelmed and overawed by that responsibility… It’s a joke. SG - 3 wins in 13, 6 wins in 26. Kindly F off “mate”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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