OutByEaster? Posted July 20, 2023 Moderator Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, I Make Pies said: Surely his absence from the American trip is just a matter of numbers? We have four senior centre midfielders going and it's unlikely Tim would get a game. He is better off staying here and training (unless a loan move is about to happen). Worth remembering that we start every game with four central midfielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Make Pies Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 You chaps may disagree but I think he is being lined up for one of the two central midfield berths rather than the wide attacking roles and is therefore competing with/behind Luiz/Kamara/Tielemans/Dendoncker. Before the Walsall friendly he was doing a piggy-in-the-middle style exercise where he had to collect and use the ball quickly with players around him. The only other player I could see doing this was Luiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysAVFC Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Not sure if it's been mentioned and will be irrelevant if he goes on loan but would he count as a club developed player in terms of a European squad? He was an academy player but pretty late on after getting him off West Brom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, AlwaysAVFC said: Not sure if it's been mentioned and will be irrelevant if he goes on loan but would he count as a club developed player in terms of a European squad? He was an academy player but pretty late on after getting him off West Brom. No because we signed him aged 18 and then loaned him for a year so can’t make the 3 years trained at the club to be club-home-grown. He doesn’t qualifies as an u21 / underage player either, even though he is the correct age there’s a restriction that u21 players need to be at the club for a period of 2 years (or 3 years if loaned out once) in order to be eligible as an additional u21 squad player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgo Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Any word on why he didn't travel with the squad to the US? I assumed he was set for a loan somewhere after Walsall but I've seen no mention of him. Maybe an injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted July 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 26, 2023 Is it pronounced ear-rogue-bun-am with the accent on the second syllable, and is the a sound in "am" like bath or trap? Iroegbunam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 5 hours ago, Marka Ragnos said: Is it pronounced ear-rogue-bun-am with the accent on the second syllable, and is the a sound in "am" like bath or trap? Iroegbunam He’s of Nigerian decent so the (I) should be pronounced as an ee instead of an aye but we all know nobody on commentary wil get their heads around that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Presumably injured as maybe would of got minutes last night at Hereford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Needs another season on loan in the Championship. Not good enough for the first team yet and was the worst of our Championship loanees last season, including KKH. I want him to succeed at Villa, but the amount of unwarranted praise he gets from Villa supporters is kind of ridiculous right now. On the other hand, Aaron Ramsey played very well for TWO Championship clubs last season and I rarely see him get hyped up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Kingman said: Presumably injured as maybe would of got minutes last night at Hereford? What colour is the boathouse? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 26, 2023 15 hours ago, Marka Ragnos said: is the a sound in "am" like bath or trap? I'm not a cockney shandy drinker, so 'bath' and 'trap' both have the same vowel sound, as far as I'm concerned. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: What colour is the boathouse? What colour is the boathouse door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Back injury, otherwise he would have been with the squad in US I assume… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, KMitch said: Needs another season on loan in the Championship. Not good enough for the first team yet and was the worst of our Championship loanees last season, including KKH. I want him to succeed at Villa, but the amount of unwarranted praise he gets from Villa supporters is kind of ridiculous right now. On the other hand, Aaron Ramsey played very well for TWO Championship clubs last season and I rarely see him get hyped up. KKH was third choice RB within a month behind an injured old midfielder and a lad from the Hudds academy who was both younger than KKH and also not a RB. Aaron Ramsey was disliked by the majority of the Norwich fanbase. I think QPR fans were fairly glowing in their assessment of Iroegbunam on the whole. Is there a reason you think his season at QPR was a huge failure? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, KMitch said: Needs another season on loan in the Championship. Not good enough for the first team yet and was the worst of our Championship loanees last season, including KKH. I want him to succeed at Villa, but the amount of unwarranted praise he gets from Villa supporters is kind of ridiculous right now. On the other hand, Aaron Ramsey played very well for TWO Championship clubs last season and I rarely see him get hyped up. He played very well for QPR for the first half of the season. He was ticking along nicely and arguably their strangest performer. Then QPR lost their marbles and began messing with managers in the second half. That never helps. I agree he needs another loan, but he did well in his last spell away despite QPRs best efforts to implode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 16 hours ago, Marka Ragnos said: Is it pronounced ear-rogue-bun-am with the accent on the second syllable, and is the a sound in "am" like bath or trap? Iroegbunam Dad joke answer: it's pronounced "Tim" Pedantic answer: I don't pronounce bath and trap in the same way FWIW I found the video of Gerrard's post-match interview where he is asked how to pronounce it and he says it's taken a few months to learn it. However I still can't get over my irrational hatred of the man so I would say that I don't trust his pronunciation of it either. https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12602892/steven-gerrard-theres-a-pathway-for-youth-players-at-villa Judging by that I think it's pronounced ee-rhoo-byoo-num ee as in tree, rhoo as in Kanga, byoo as in blue without the "l" and num as in the popular linkin park song. The "G" is silent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, mjmooney said: I'm not a cockney shandy drinker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted July 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, mjmooney said: I'm not a cockney shandy drinker, so 'bath' and 'trap' both have the same vowel sound, as far as I'm concerned. 53 minutes ago, skarroki said: Dad joke answer: it's pronounced "Tim" Pedantic answer: I don't pronounce bath and trap in the same way FWIW I found the video of Gerrard's post-match interview where he is asked how to pronounce it and he says it's taken a few months to learn it. However I still can't get over my irrational hatred of the man so I would say that I don't trust his pronunciation of it either. https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12602892/steven-gerrard-theres-a-pathway-for-youth-players-at-villa Judging by that I think it's pronounced ee-rhoo-byoo-num ee as in tree, rhoo as in Kanga, byoo as in blue without the "l" and num as in the popular linkin park song. The "G" is silent. It's stupid of me not to realise that the trap-bath split doesn't apply to many Villa supporters' accents. Sorry! Edited July 26, 2023 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 15 hours ago, skarroki said: Dad joke answer: it's pronounced "Tim" Pedantic answer: I don't pronounce bath and trap in the same way FWIW I found the video of Gerrard's post-match interview where he is asked how to pronounce it and he says it's taken a few months to learn it. However I still can't get over my irrational hatred of the man so I would say that I don't trust his pronunciation of it either. https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12602892/steven-gerrard-theres-a-pathway-for-youth-players-at-villa Judging by that I think it's pronounced ee-rhoo-byoo-num ee as in tree, rhoo as in Kanga, byoo as in blue without the "l" and num as in the popular linkin park song. The "G" is silent. The interviewer got it right Gerrard butchered it U in most African languages is pronounced as a W as in OO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Injured by the looks of it, unavailable for Newcastle tomorrow assume that's why no loan yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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