villa4europe Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 15 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Careful throwing criticism at Purslow on here... To be fair though there's no way we will ever know how this transfer came about and even if it was a purslow name you would have to assume that we still scout him and use the analytics team to check him out, there's literally nothing to suggest purslow rocked up to bmh one day and gifted us Leon Bailey without anyone else knowing And he was considered a big signing at the time, he'd done well at leverkusen, been linked to utd for more than we paid for him (who went on to spend £180m on sancho and Anthony so that should be a warning...)there was definitely a buzz around him he's just fallen unbelievably short, which is probably why he's being talked about as one of our worst players ever, he's not but he is one of the most disappointing And Zatman in another thread just reminded me of a genuine contender for worst player ever... Rudy Gestede, **** me he was a donkey, worse than heskey, absolutely no redeeming feature to him, replacing grealish with Bailey has nothing on replacing Benteke with gestede 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 21 minutes ago, villa4europe said: he was considered a big signing at the time, he'd done well at leverkusen, been linked to utd for more than we paid for him (who went on to spend £180m on sancho and Anthony so that should be a warning...)there was definitely a buzz around him he's just fallen unbelievably short, which is probably why he's being talked about as one of our worst players ever, he's not but he is one of the most disappointing I agree, he isn't one of the worse signings we have made, absolutely not I think the frustration comes that he was a promising signing when he arrived and he has shown moments of magic if you will, but it's not happening as often as many would have hoped. He has also been unlucky with injuries too which hasn't been ignored. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, DaveAV1 said: If the general consensus is that Leon wasn’t a very good signing, who are we going to blame? Deano, Lange or the Man from Delmonti? Purslow. I would have thought that obvious. If he was absolutely brilliant it would have been down to Emery despite not been at the club at the time Edited May 7, 2023 by sidcow 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2023 18 hours ago, maqroll said: The way Purslow rushed in front of the cameras to announce the deal makes me think he was the one who pushed for it to happen. And there we have it. Sure as eggs is eggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 1 minute ago, sidcow said: Purslow. I woun have thought that obvious. If he was absolutely brilliant it would have been down to Emery despite not been at the club at the time Truer words have never been spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 3 hours ago, sidcow said: Purslow. I would have thought that obvious. If he was absolutely brilliant it would have been down to Emery despite not been at the club at the time He’s not absolutely brilliant and Unai wasn’t at the club. If he had been then perhaps whoever we’d signed instead might be brilliant. Purslow getting the blame for things might be because he is in fact responsible for those particular mistakes He’s good at somethings, recruitment isn’t one of them. With the imminent arrival of Alemany, I’d imagine he’ll have more time to get on with the things he’s good at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpablosaliceband Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 I think he’s definitely one of the worst signings we have ever made. Possibly the single worst considering his fee and value for money. He’s abysmal. When is the last time anyone can genuinely say he played well for 90 minutes? Scoring a goal every 10 games or so doesn’t make up for that. He should be one of our best players. He’s no better than Trezeguet or El Ghazi. Possibly worse. It’s like playing with 10 men at times when he’s on the pitch. I was really excited about this signing but he’s been a disaster. I don’t see how we can dress it up as anything else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: Purslow getting the blame for things might be because he is in fact responsible for those particular mistakes Yes, there is clear evidence that Purslow is responsible for the signing of Bailey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted May 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, juanpablosaliceband said: I think he’s definitely one of the worst signings we have ever made. Possibly the single worst considering his fee and value for money. He’s abysmal. When is the last time anyone can genuinely say he played well for 90 minutes? Scoring a goal every 10 games or so doesn’t make up for that. He should be one of our best players. He’s no better than Trezeguet or El Ghazi. Possibly worse. It’s like playing with 10 men at times when he’s on the pitch. I was really excited about this signing but he’s been a disaster. I don’t see how we can dress it up as anything else. He’s a better signing than McCormack. Even taking the price into account. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Definitely one of the more frustrating signings given the hype and prior talent & ability he showcased at Leverkusen. He's been disappointing under 3 managers now: I know there hasn't been stability while he's at the club & and he's been on and off with injuries, but there's nothing else to his game other than just running forward, getting dispossessed by the last defender and repeating that 15 times a game. Saying that, a certain Mr Craig Butler has been awfully quiet of late: mysteriously since Villa started getting good while Leon has faded away... If Villa are a stepping stone like he thinks, they're about to fall into the lake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 I do still think there’s more to come from Bailey, but he’s really not shown enough since for us yet. I’d keep him as a squad player but it’s vital we upgrade that wide right forward position this summer. Bailey could still be a useful option off the bench or in the ECL games that we WILL be playing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 1 hour ago, juanpablosaliceband said: I think he’s definitely one of the worst signings we have ever made. Possibly the single worst considering his fee and value for money. He’s abysmal. When is the last time anyone can genuinely say he played well for 90 minutes? Scoring a goal every 10 games or so doesn’t make up for that. He should be one of our best players. He’s no better than Trezeguet or El Ghazi. Possibly worse. It’s like playing with 10 men at times when he’s on the pitch. I was really excited about this signing but he’s been a disaster. I don’t see how we can dress it up as anything else. Have you just started supporting the club? How is baikey one of teh worst ever signings? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpablosaliceband Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Have you just started supporting the club? How is baikey one of teh worst ever signings? We paid something like 30 million for him. If you look around the league, you’ll see what could have been done with that sort of money. Six goals in two years and an endless supply of rubbish performances. We’ve made some terrible signings but few have been as costly as this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, juanpablosaliceband said: We paid something like 30 million for him. If you look around the league, you’ll see what could have been done with that sort of money. Six goals in two years and an endless supply of rubbish performances. We’ve made some terrible signings but few have been as costly as this one. Sure is a lot of money for the return of six goals over two seasons. Leverkusen must be laughing. Yes he's had injuries and I sympathise yet still people were unsure before. Bailey just seems without confidence, lightweight, can't beat a player, not so pacy and his shooting is non-existent. Needs replaced in the first-team, one of the positions we are looking to actively improve upon with the talk of wingers such as Nico Williams, Ferran Torres, Lee Kang-In having been linked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, juanpablosaliceband said: We paid something like 30 million for him. If you look around the league, you’ll see what could have been done with that sort of money. Six goals in two years and an endless supply of rubbish performances. We’ve made some terrible signings but few have been as costly as this one. 30 million is the going rate these days for players unfortunately but id argue players like n zogbia, mccormack just two on top my head much worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Yes we are far from alone in having spent £20-30m on wingers who haven't cut it. It's a hard position to find consistent quality in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 2 hours ago, sidcow said: Yes, there is clear evidence that Purslow is responsible for the signing of Bailey Suppose it was just Courtinho he ****** up on then was it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 8 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: I agree, he isn't one of the worse signings we have made, absolutely not I think the frustration comes that he was a promising signing when he arrived and he has shown moments of magic if you will, but it's not happening as often as many would have hoped. He has also been unlucky with injuries too which hasn't been ignored. I thought he was a great profile for us. Mid 20s, had 2-3 good seasons in Bundesliga and europa league so exactly the sort of signing we should've been making post Grealish. In last few months of 20/21 you had threads on here demanding we drop 30m on Dwight McNeill for instance. It hasn't worked out. Who knows how he'd done if his hamstring hadn't gone after scoring v Everton as that was amazing cameo but that's pretty much as good as it got bar a few good games this season. He fits Ajax model so hopefully they're still interested 12 months on. They signed Haller when he flopped at West Ham and made a tidy profit selling him to Dortmund a few years later so similar method here as Bailey should be getting double figures in goals and assists in Dutch league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted May 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2023 It’s must have been noted already but anyway, it’s kinda weird that his best moments that spring to my mind - Everton debut, Brentford 4-0, his early goal against Man Utd…they’re his first game under a new manager. He’s seemingly quite good at introductions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted May 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2023 i feel for him. he's a nice guy but his confidence is in the toilet right now. with players coming back from injury now i doubt we'll see much more of him this season he was at least better than traore yesterday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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