Emiliano Buendía

[Bizzzle]

Thought he was one of our best players 1st half but second he was pretty anonymous 

[IrishVilla10]

 

[PaulC]

Whether he created any real chances last night doesnt matter he is always looking to create chances and not just play safe.

[villalad21]

35 minutes ago, PaulC said:

Whether he created any real chances last night doesnt matter he is always looking to create chances and not just play safe.

But often times it's better to play the easy option to keep the attack flowing. 

David Silva was a master of it. 

Edited December 15, 2021 by villalad21

[Rightdm00]

1 hour ago, IrishVilla10 said:

 

@DCJonah exactly what I was getting at. No one else from our squad is on this list.

[Rightdm00]

My son's are currently moving through the soccer development process.  I always have to stress to my oldest who is pretty conservative in his play that it's called a chance because you have to take certain amount of risk for it to come off. If you don't take the risk, whether it's a run, attempting to dribble past an opponent or difficult pass you will never get the opportunity to score/create a goal.  

Now you can argue Buendia takes too great a risk for our chances to come off. That's fair. The only issue is with our current available lineup if he doesn't then it's a big zero for alternatives. At that point we might as well bring out the Cash long throw. 

Edited December 15, 2021 by Rightdm00

[MotoMkali]

2 hours ago, useless said:

McGinn, Luiz, Ings and El Ghazi, Young, and Bailey all have more or the same amount of assists as Buendia this season, with the exception of Luiz and Young, they've all scored more than him as well, as have a few others like Konsa, Archer, and Ramsey. Buendia is improving and he had a good game last night, but I don't think it's true to say we have no creativity without him.

Yes but El Ghazi and Bailey are out injured. And playing ings and watkins in the same lineup is a difficult proposition. 

[DCJonah]

2 hours ago, Rightdm00 said:

@DCJonah exactly what I was getting at. No one else from our squad is on this list.

I'm not sure that proves that we have no creativity without him. 

Mcginn has created much better chances than Buendia against Norwich and Leicester. Carney got an assist last night. Ings and Watkins are capable of creating chances as are Targett and Cash. 

[Keener window-cleaner]

I think there are two things that make ppl judge him a bit unfairly. First his price tag, almost £40M, I think most of us agree that was too much, but it was perhaps what we had to pay to get him instead of Arsenal. The other is seeing him as Jack's replacement, which will always lead to disappointment. I'd rather see him as Barkleys replacement, same position and probably cost about as much (Barkley's fee perhaps lower, but wages higher). Compared to Barkley, at least post injury Barkley, I think Buendia brings so much more to the team.

edit: when i think more about it, perhaps 40M is a fair prince considering he was top 3(?) in created chances last time he was in the PL and now according to that stats above is no 2. 

Edited December 15, 2021 by Keener window-cleaner

[cheltenham_villa]

For me it shows the huge opportunity that he brings. He's high in chances created without a huge amount of game time and without really clicking yet with others around him. Where most of the fan base thinks he's been a bit hit and miss.

Imagine when that gels and he starts to understand the runs Watkins and others will make. 

[briny_ear]

5 hours ago, IrishVilla10 said:

 

Genuine question, is there a definition of “chance created”?, i.e. what did you have to do to be chalked up as creating a chance.

I’m asking because I wouldn’t have said, just on the basis of watching him play, that Buendia creates a lot of what I would count as “chances”.

[villabromsgrove]

Give it a few weeks until Gerard/Beale get their system and positioning fully ingrained in the team. Buendia will light up when those around him are on the same wavelength and are all 100% fit. He can be an exceptional player.

(The 100% fit part of the above paragraph might take a little longer with our current luck)

[MotoMkali]

31 minutes ago, briny_ear said:

Genuine question, is there a definition of “chance created”?, i.e. what did you have to do to be chalked up as creating a chance.

I’m asking because I wouldn’t have said, just on the basis of watching him play, that Buendia creates a lot of what I would count as “chances”.

A pass leading to a shot. And historically he has been dominant in this category we just haven't been playing in a way particularly conducive to that as a whole. He could definitely do with another winger instead of young playing who is a threat to run in behind or shoot. 

[osmark86]

The man knows how to find that spicy pass. He gets swamped sometimes and loses possession but he's a baller imo. Works hard off the ball too which is a great attribute.

[Rightdm00]

26 minutes ago, MotoMkali said:

A pass leading to a shot. And historically he has been dominant in this category we just haven't been playing in a way particularly conducive to that as a whole. He could definitely do with another winger instead of young playing who is a threat to run in behind or shoot. 

Football reference has a slightly different stat called SCA( Shot Creating Action) which Buendia is also #3 for our team even with his limited minutes for the season. 

[Skruff]

20 hours ago, osmark86 said:

The man knows how to find that spicy pass. He gets swamped sometimes and loses possession but he's a baller imo. Works hard off the ball too which is a great attribute.

Definitely. He has some of the best defensive stats for a winger/attacking midfielder in the league. One of the most progressive passers and high on chances created. He's being dispossed 3 times per match on average which is a lot. But the narrative that he's been shit thats being touted by some simply isn't true when you look at the statistics. Unless you chose to focus him being dispossessed and ignore everything else off course. 

[DCJonah]

I think he's created a few chances and in spells has been superb. But I just don't think its enough. I don't think he's shit, I don't think he'll be a failure of a signing. I just don't think he's done enough so far and I'm sure he'd probably agree. 

[useless]

This magician can do things on the ball none of our other players can do, he can do things even Grealish couldn't do, some of his moments are sublime.

[MSvillain]

1 hour ago, DCJonah said:

I think he's created a few chances and in spells has been superb. But I just don't think its enough. I don't think he's shit, I don't think he'll be a failure of a signing. I just don't think he's done enough so far and I'm sure he'd probably agree. 

The way he reacted when he got subbed I'd tend to agree with the final sentence 

[Delphinho123]

2 hours ago, useless said:

This magician can do things on the ball none of our other players can do, he can do things even Grealish couldn't do, some of his moments are sublime.

Spare me.