Zhan_Zhuang Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Benrahma is worth £18-20 million at the very most, untried at the top level and performed poorly in the play-off final when they needed him. Watkins in relation to Maupay last year much the same price for me. I don't see how anyone could pay over £20 million for a Championship player who has never played in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Okonokos said: I really don't know why people seem to be panicking that we haven't signed anyone yet or might not sign the right quality. Firstly, the season only officially finished last night and there's still 2 months left of the window and secondly, there is absolutely nothing to suggest we won't buy quality. All the signs are that we have a huge transfer budget and we know how ambitious the owners are. To me, it seems like worrying for the sake of worrying. If its worrying for the sake of worrying, I'm not worried at all....Its worrying when there is plenty to worry about, that worries me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, OLDVILLAIN said: HAHA they can stick their 50m where the sun dont shine I do hate sky so effing much. Assuming their other report about Watkins having an £18m release clause is correct, why even bother putting them in a single post with a combined fee. No way they value Benrahma at £32m. This is clearly made up bollox to appear sensationalist and get clikbait. If they can offer a bet that they both go to the same club at the same time via sky bet, ooooo, lets watch the money roll in. Scum bags 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted August 5, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 5, 2020 £50m for the pair isn't all that bad in terms of value. If it's their opening valuation and it can be negotiated down then I think that's actually quite encouraging. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Quote Brentford want in excess of £50m to sell the two best parts of their BMW - Said Benrahma and Ollie Watkins. The Bees value the pair at more than £25m each following their stellar campaigns in a front-three alongside Bryan Mbuemo. The trio scored a combined 57 goals as the west London club were almost promoted to the Premier League for the first time in their history, losing to Fulham in last night's final at Wembley. There will be no fire sale of the team's best players after this defeat, but the Bees know there is considerable interest in both Benrahma and Watkins, and they are open to strong offers. However, reports Watkins has an £18m release clause in his contract are wide of the mark. Algeria winger Benrahma is high on the lists of a string of Premier League clubs including West Ham and Aston Villa. Watkins is also wanted by Villa boss Dean Smith after working with him at Griffin Park, while the striker remains a long-term target for Crystal Palace too. Brentford will review the contracts of all their players this summer, including the front three. They already have targets lined up to replace Watkins, including Peterborough's Ivan Toney and Arsenal youngster Folarin Bolagun, and wingers to replace Benrahma. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12043063/brentford-value-said-benrahma-and-ollie-watkins-at-more-than-25m-each The article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 It makes sense if Watkins is 18m and they want something like 40 for Benrahma. at this price Benrahama isn’t the player we should go for Sarr is far superior. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: £50m for the pair isn't all that bad in terms of value. If it's their opening valuation and it can be negotiated down then I think that's actually quite encouraging. Both bought for peanuts....its not a bad business model( at that rate), they have is it?......perhaps we should be picking them up at source like they do. We have been burnt once with Hogan.....lets not go back for more. Edited August 5, 2020 by TRO 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) Sounds like Brentford are pushing up Benrahma's price to try and make up for the money they'll lose on Watkins because of his relelase clause, we shouldn't be paying anymore than £20m for Benrahma. Nearly £40m for the two of them, two players in their mid twenties who haven't played at an higher level than the championship is probably too much as it is. Edouard would be a coup for us, will probably end up somewhere like Arsenal or Leicester, as we're now bidding for Watkins I suspect our interest in him has ended, as I can't see us spending £18mil on Watkins and then another £30m on Eduardo, that would leave us with Davis, Wesley, Samatta, Edouard and Watkins, even if Davis goes out on loan, we aren't going to have the other four all fighting for one position, if Watkins signs he'll be our main striker signing, and possibly the only striker we sign this window. Edited August 5, 2020 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 I know the cost of transfers have lost the run of themselves in modern football but there's absolutely no way Buendia goes for £35 million. And if he did it'd be a ridiculous decision from whoever paid it. Same with that £40 million tag on Edouard. I don't doubt that Celtic have put it out there as posturing, but I'd be surprised if it's any more than around £30 million given he only has a couple of years on his contract and it's not like he's light years beyond Tierney and Dembele, who are their most expensive departures and were sold in the £20-25 million range quite recently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, useless said: Sounds like Brentford are pushing up Benrahma's price to try and make up for the money they'll lose on Watkins because of his relelase clause, we shouldn't be paying anymore than £20m for Benrahma. Nearly £40m for the two of them, two players in their mid twenties who haven't played at an higher level than the championship is probably too much as it is. Eduardo would be a coup for us, will probably end up somewhere like Arsenal or Leicester, as we're now bidding for Watkins I suspect our interest in him has ended, as I can't see us spending £18mil on Watkins and then another £30m on Eduardo, that would leave us with Davis, Wesley, Samatta, Eduardo and Watkins, even if Davis goes out on loan, we aren't going to have the other four all fighting for one position, if Watkins signs he'll be our main striker signing, and possibly the only striker we sign this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, pete101 said: Celtic were low balling Hibs at the time for mcginn when we made our bid Interesting fact, mcginns granda used to own Celtic back in the 80’s. Maybe he put them up to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 If we sign Watkins Benrahma and Max Aarons will be our best summer transfer window since 1984 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TRO Posted August 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2020 I am not trying to be disrespectful to Brentford, but many bang the drum for their business model, where they ask huge sums for their players to prospective buyers......but they win nothing, they are not winners....not yet anyway. They have had a great season by their standards, played some eye catching football.....but what have they won? When the pressure was on, they didn't turn up.....their well documented BMW forward line was reduced to a blunt chisel, by a well organised Fulham defence. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDVILLAIN Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, useless said: Sounds like Brentford are pushing up Benrahma's price to try and make up for the money they'll lose on Watkins because of his relelase clause, we shouldn't be paying anymore than £20m for Benrahma. Nearly £40m for the two of them, two players in their mid twenties who haven't played at an higher level than the championship is probably too much as it is. Eduardo would be a coup for us, will probably end up somewhere like Arsenal or Leicester, as we're now bidding for Watkins I suspect our interest in him has ended, as I can't see us spending £18mil on Watkins and then another £30m on Eduardo, that would leave us with Davis, Wesley, Samatta, Eduardo and Watkins, even if Davis goes out on loan, we aren't going to have the other four all fighting for one position, if Watkins signs he'll be our main striker signing, and possibly the only striker we sign this window. If watkins is signed as our main striker we will be in serious trouble next season and will not have learnt any lessons from last summer debacle 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted August 5, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, useless said: Sounds like Brentford are pushing up Benrahma's price to try and make up for the money they'll lose on Watkins because of his relelase clause, we shouldn't be paying anymore than £20m for Benrahma. Nearly £40m for the two of them, two players in their mid twenties who haven't played at an higher level than the championship is probably too much as it is. Eduardo would be a coup for us, will probably end up somewhere like Arsenal or Leicester, as we're now bidding for Watkins I suspect our interest in him has ended, as I can't see us spending £18mil on Watkins and then another £30m on Eduardo, that would leave us with Davis, Wesley, Samatta, Eduardo and Watkins, even if Davis goes out on loan, we aren't going to have the other four all fighting for one position, if Watkins signs he'll be our main striker signing, and possibly the only striker we sign this window. A few people have made this comparison on this thread - without getting into the comparative merits of the individual players, for me the Championship is a higher level of football than the Scottish Premiership. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted August 5, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 5, 2020 I don't think striker is our main weakness - I'd happily spend just the £18m on Watkins if it meant we could spend more than that on each of a pair of wide men. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Well tts now come out that Watkns doesn't have a release clause and Brentford want £25m, meanng if we do sign him it will make it even more less likely that we will be signing another striker for big money. I like what I've seen of Watkins this season, and Brentford are well within their right to ask £20m plus for him, he's been just as impressive, if not more so than Maupay was for them, but I'd prefer us to go for someone more proven. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDVILLAIN Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 If we only sign one striker this season...and he gets injured..we will be in the exact same boat as we were last season (assuming davis is lent out and samatta is moved on) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, useless said: Sounds like Brentford are pushing up Benrahma's price to try and make up for the money they'll lose on Watkins because of his relelase clause, we shouldn't be paying anymore than £20m for Benrahma. Nearly £40m for the two of them, two players in their mid twenties who haven't played at an higher level than the championship is probably too much as it is. Eduardo would be a coup for us, will probably end up somewhere like Arsenal or Leicester, as we're now bidding for Watkins I suspect our interest in him has ended, as I can't see us spending £18mil on Watkins and then another £30m on Eduardo, that would leave us with Davis, Wesley, Samatta, Eduardo and Watkins, even if Davis goes out on loan, we aren't going to have the other four all fighting for one position, if Watkins signs he'll be our main striker signing, and possibly the only striker we sign this window. That's a lot of money for players to be a flop in the Premier League. The league eats you up, if you are not physically and mentally atuned to the rigours of it......we need to be very careful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted August 5, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, useless said: Well tts now come out that Watkns doesn't have a release clause and Brentford want £25m, meanng if we do sign him it will make it even more less likely that we will be signing another striker for big money. I like what I've seen of Watkins this season, and Brentford are well within their right to ask £20m plus for him, he's been just as impressive, if not more so than Maupay was for them, but I'd prefer us to go for someone more proven. I largely agree with you there - I think that what Watkins has going for him is that of the players we're linked with, he's the one with the most attractive price tag. For me, we buy the wingers first then see what we've got left for full backs, a centre back and a forward and buy accordingly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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