Zatman Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, PaulC said: Must be mistaking the Ronaldo's Cristiano has a 250 goal headstart and will probably play until 40 Lewandowski wont get near him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I don't think you should be using arguably the greatest strike of all time as the "bar for strikers when talking about world class" That's like saying a car isn't fast unless it's as vast as a Bugatti Veyron. It's a game of opinions buddy. To me you need to have more to your game than just finishing and movement to become world class. R9 set the bar for me. He could do anything. Was a complete striker and had no flaws to his game. Thierry Henry was another one of those complete forwards. Strong, good in the air, fast, good finisher, excellent dribbler, good passer of the ball. No real weaknesses really. You could compare Haaland to someone like Nistelrooy who is another striker i never thought were world class. Edited November 24, 2020 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: It's a game of opinions buddy. To me you need to have more to your game than just finishing and movement to become world class. R9 set the bar for me. He could do anything. Was a complete striker and had no flaws to his game. Thierry Henry was another one of those complete forwards. henry was a winger at 20 years old with 15 league goals to his name hadnt even failed at juve by 20 years old, developed in to a world beater under wenger you are again comparing a kid who is better at this stage of his career to a player who developed in to world class later in their career 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, villalad21 said: It's a game of opinions buddy. To me you need to have more to your game than just finishing and movement to become world class. R9 set the bar for me. He could do anything. Was a complete striker and had no flaws to his game. Thierry Henry was another one of those complete forwards. Strong, good in the air, fast, good finisher, excellent dribbler, good passer of the ball. No real weaknesses really. Thierry Henry and Brazilian Ronaldo were good in the air What is this bullshit 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, villa4europe said: henry was a winger at 20 years old with 15 league goals to his name hadnt even failed at juve by 20 years old, developed in to a world beater under wenger you are again comparing a kid who is better at this stage of his career to a player who developed in to world class later in their career Not really comparing. Just saying what i view as world class. As of now Haaland has too many flaws in his overall game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: Not really comparing. Just saying what i view as world class. As of now Haaland has too many flaws in his overall game. Not sure why I'm still playing... Henry wasn't world class at 20, he wasn't even a striker at 20, he was developed in to a world class striker at arsenal when he was older Haaland is 20, he is better than Henry was at the same age, he is better than kane was at the same age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, villa4europe said: Not sure why I'm still playing... Henry wasn't world class at 20, he wasn't even a striker at 20, he was developed in to a world class striker at arsenal when he was older Haaland is 20, he is better than Henry was at the same age, he is better than kane was at the same age I don't get your point. I'm just stating what to me is world class and what isn't. To me he is not there yet. I brought up Henry and R9 because of what i define as truly world class. I didn't try to compare the 20 year old R9 or the 20 year old Henry. Because that was never the point i was making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 24, 2020 26 minutes ago, villalad21 said: It's a game of opinions buddy. To me you need to have more to your game than just finishing and movement to become world class. R9 set the bar for me. He could do anything. Was a complete striker and had no flaws to his game. Thierry Henry was another one of those complete forwards. Strong, good in the air, fast, good finisher, excellent dribbler, good passer of the ball. No real weaknesses really. You could compare Haaland to someone like Nistelrooy who is another striker i never thought were world class. I think you've missed my point. Or you don't understand what "setting the bar" means. Setting the bar means you are setting the standard of what world class entails. I merely suggested using the best striker of all time to "set the bar" doesn't really make sense. You're basically saying no other striker in history has been world class. My point wasn't about Haaland. I've seen Haaland play about 10 minutes of football ever so I have literally no opinion on him other than his stats are insane for someone his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: I think you've missed my point. Or you don't understand what "setting the bar" means. Setting the bar means you are setting the standard of what world class entails. I merely suggested using the best striker of all time to "set the bar" doesn't really make sense. You're basically saying no other striker in history has been world class. My point wasn't about Haaland. I've seen Haaland play about 10 minutes of football ever so I have literally no opinion on him other than his stats are insane for someone his age. Not saying you need to be as good as him to be considered world class. But you need to have more in your locker than just good finishing and movement. But if you asked me 15 years ago who would i rather take, Etoo or Nistelrooy i'd take Etoo any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: I don't get your point. I'm just stating what to me is world class and what isn't. To me he is not there yet. I brought up Henry and R9 because of what i define as truly world class. I didn't try to compare the 20 year old R9 or the 20 year old Henry. Because that was never the point i was making. I agree he's nowhere near world class yet. I don't think Aguero is world class either. Suarez yes! Edited November 24, 2020 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 4 hours ago, villalad21 said: As of now Haaland has too many flaws in his overall game. like what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, a m ole said: like what? Headers Link up play Dribbling Overall ball control/first touch Passing Edited November 24, 2020 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JamieZ Posted November 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2020 I must admit I'm perplexed by the thrust of this argument. All the boy does is score. He's done it everywhere he's gone and done it regularly. Is that not the primary objective of a striker? And of the sport in general? I mean, if someone offers you a racehorse who's won every race he's run, it seems a bit strange to say, "Well, he doesn't offer much in the way of conversation, does he?" 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 His goalkeeper rating on Football Manager 2020 is only 2 so therefore he must be a crap attacker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieZ Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 He just scored again. But then again, it's pretty much all he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, JamieZ said: He just scored again. But then again, it's pretty much all he did. But what has he done for the starving children in Africa? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 *Enters Topic* *realises current conversation concerns whether or not Haland is actually any good at football because all he does is score a shed load of goals* *promptly leaves topic* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieZ Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 He's scored twice today, which I'm sure should somehow diminish our opinion of him. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 His finishing is obscene. Reminds me of Van Persie. Absolutely slaps them in. No surprise to see one of the great minds of villatalk embarrassing himself again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 11 hours ago, Zatman said: Sure he highly rates the forward play of Keinan Davis and thinks he should be a regular starter Suppose it kills off the theory he is a Leeds fan Therein lies the genius of his argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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