GarethRDR Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 3 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Wait, you got the award? Sounds like the job is yours son. Well, I have actually been to the Pizza Express in Woking. Not to groom young girls, mind; there's an awesome Laser Quest nearby that's a far better hunting ground. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mic09 said: I never got into the finer details of this, but can you please explain: So he is paying for private security (as anyone would, should they wish to do that) but Police said they are not very good so he should pay the Police (who should be busy looking after, I don't know, everyone?) to look after him? In a nut shell... Yes I think He doesn't get police protection, he's lost that right, so he has an American security firm set up that he pays for, when he tried to visit last year the police received a threat and did an analysis of his security set up and said its not sufficient so he can't visit, so he said OK he'll pay for the police to protect him and its gone back to the police are not allowed to protect him because he gave up that right He's going to court to challenge the inability to have police protection - but he wants to pay for the protection himself, he's not asking for it to be given to him for free And all of that is what I think is right... I'm not going in to detail with the red tops because from the attempt I made there's just a load of bile out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 17, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, Mic09 said: I never got into the finer details of this, but can you please explain: So he is paying for private security (as anyone would, should they wish to do that) but Police said they are not very good so he should pay the Police (who should be busy looking after, I don't know, everyone?) to look after him? Police Royal Protection Officers are hardly going to be out there protecting the likes of you and I if they aren't protecting royals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 I assume, but don’t know, that the problem with the Police saying yes to Harry is that then it opens them up to being purchased by any wealthy person who wants top tier security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Well I don’t use any of the Royal Family, so perhaps we should get rid of a few. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Genie said: I assume, but don’t know, that the problem with the Police saying yes to Harry is that then it opens them up to being purchased by any wealthy person who wants top tier security. I don't know but I would guess that a general wealthy person / celebrity wouldn't carry the same threat level that the police stuck on Harry so their own personal security would be allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, Genie said: I assume, but don’t know, that the problem with the Police saying yes to Harry is that then it opens them up to being purchased by any wealthy person who wants top tier security. Bingo. I'm confident that Bel Air has many more "volnourable" people. Harry, although he is special, isn't that special. I think the prince needs to suck it up, accept he is a commoner through his own choice, and pay the additional $$$ for better security. I have sympathy on the personal level. But the guy should be able to get his own top protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Bingo. I'm confident that Bel Air has many more "volnourable" people. Harry, although he is special, isn't that special. I think the prince needs to suck it up, accept he is a commoner through his own choice, and pay the additional $$$ for better security. I have sympathy on the personal level. But the guy should be able to get his own top protection. No he can't that's why he's taking it court According to the police he is that special but then they won't protect him for free or for a fee and that's the problem Means he can't enter the country by the sounds of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) Read the CNN article It says Harry is not allowed to enter the UK because his personal security cannot replicate the necessary police protection needed meaning that his visit is considered too dangerous He's then said right I'll pay for the police then and the police have said no So the police won't let him in Edit - which the daily mail ran a piece suggesting he's unhappy in his marriage, unhappy in the US and is blackmailing the Queen... Edited January 17, 2022 by villa4europe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 To be fair then it sounds like a valid gripe, a British citizen who cannot return home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 17, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2022 I suspect the "deficiency" in his American security is that they cannot carry firearms in the UK. the only close protection officers who will be allowed to carry firearms are the UK police ones. You can kind of understand that, I bet a lot of foreign celebrities and generally rich people have armed guards in their native and other countries but can't have them here. Criminals and general nut jobs don't have the same issues though. That said I bet if someone tried to attack eg Roman Abramovich a firearm would mysteriously appear from somewhere. My mates younger brother used to be a personal assistant / protection for a only slightly well known figure and he tried to persuade him to carry an illegal firearm for his protection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, sidcow said: I suspect the "deficiency" in his American security is that they cannot carry firearms in the UK. the only close protection officers who will be allowed to carry firearms are the UK police ones. You can kind of understand that, I bet a lot of foreign celebrities and generally rich people have armed guards in their native and other countries but can't have them here. Criminals and general nut jobs don't have the same issues though. That said I bet if someone tried to attack eg Roman Abramovich a firearm would mysteriously appear from somewhere. My mates younger brother used to be a personal assistant / protection for a only slightly well known figure and he tried to persuade him to carry an illegal firearm for his protection. That's a good shout actually in reference to can't replicate the police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 17, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2022 That said Harry is an uber toff. I would expect him to have a couple of shotguns in the boot at all times in case of an impromptu Grouse shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2022 Thank goodness Andrew has cleared his name. Personally I never doubted him for a second. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Bit disappointed to be honest, was looking forward to the court case 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: Thank goodness Andrew has cleared his name. Personally I never doubted him for a second. He’ll be sweating like a … oh no, of course he won’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 15, 2022 Moderator Share Posted February 15, 2022 I am disappointed, I really thought she's stick it out She has absolutely destroyed his reputation though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2022 That wasn't predictable at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, bickster said: I am disappointed, I really thought she's stick it out She has absolutely destroyed his reputation though Yeah, I can't see him getting his titles back even with this being "resolved" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Surely the resolution only adds to there being truth in the allegation. However, Id rather these situations be resolved judicially and not financially though. Andrew will remain not convicted of an offence but the resolution points at his guilt and it’s a cross he’ll have to bear in the public eye. another case of the rich being able to bat off any allegation with a bucket of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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