villabromsgrove Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, villalad21 said: Hopefully we see this team ----------------------Heaton---------------- Elmo------Konsa-----Mings-----Targett --------------------Nakamba-------------------- ---------------McGinn--Luiz-------------------- Trezeguet-----Wesley-------------Jack Our record tells us that we don't tend to lose with Hourihane in the team .... So why leave him out this evening? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elton Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, villabromsgrove said: Our record tells us that we don't tend to lose with Hourihane in the team .... So why leave him out this evening? That record is mainly because he is selected against weaker opponents. We were winning against Liverpool and subbed him on and lost. Not sure we can seriously equate good results with Hourihane playing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 03/12/2019 at 12:22, zab6359 said: My 15 yr old jack russell has more pace than Jota, wide players need pace Jota runs like a slug, he is not a PL player Trez for all his faults can hold his own in the PL, not saying he's a sensation but miles ahead of Jota as a winger. I think Jota would be better as a CM. Let's not forget that Jota has been playing with a hernia for the last 18 months, so he might actually be faster than whenever we've seen him. One trap some people constantly seem to fall into, is not trusting Dean Smith's judgement. I remember when people questioned the Nakamba signing, saying that £10-12m was too much for a back-up, and 'how good can he actually be if he's not getting into the team?', then 4 weeks later and he's the best thing since sliced bread and looks as good, if not better, than the unofficial Man City loanee Douglas Luiz. If Jota starts or plays a part, let's give him some time, and assume that Smith must have seen something in him, and isn't just throwing him in for no reason. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Think we can get something tonight, this Chelsea side a very hit and miss. It's showing on amazon prime tonight and if you've not got it they do a 30 day free trial so you'll also get the boxing day fixtures to watch as well. Just remember to cancel it before the 30 days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Elton said: Well Smith said Jota is pushing for a start and he also clearly rates Lansbury. I’m not saying that’s my preference but with 7 matches in the next 24 days. If he’s ever going to rotate in the PL and include a surprise selection this could be the week does it, 3 days after playing away at Man U. That's called good man management let people hear what they want to hear. As for Lansbury (who I do rate technically) he'll spend more time injured than on the pitch unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 02/12/2019 at 09:20, It's Your Round said: I’ve read somewhere that Tammy will have recovered from his hip injury, so expected to play. It’s another tough game, but the fact Deano has beaten Lampard 3 times head to head gives me a little hope. This is live on Amazon Prime, so at least I can watch it properly. Just tell McGinn which hip it is and have him shove his massive arse into it, Tactics ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said: Just tell McGinn which hip it is and have him shove his massive arse into it, Tactics ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Rob182 said: Let's not forget that Jota has been playing with a hernia for the last 18 months, so he might actually be faster than whenever we've seen him. One trap some people constantly seem to fall into, is not trusting Dean Smith's judgement. I remember when people questioned the Nakamba signing, saying that £10-12m was too much for a back-up, and 'how good can he actually be if he's not getting into the team?', then 4 weeks later and he's the best thing since sliced bread and looks as good, if not better, than the unofficial Man City loanee Douglas Luiz. If Jota starts or plays a part, let's give him some time, and assume that Smith must have seen something in him, and isn't just throwing him in for no reason. I really think Jota is a player DS likes (and I can see why) but he was a 'maybe he can cut it in this league' signing and he is not going to ever sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, holteend1982 said: Think we can get something tonight, this Chelsea side a very hit and miss. It's showing on amazon prime tonight and if you've not got it they do a 30 day free trial so you'll also get the boxing day fixtures to watch as well. Just remember to cancel it before the 30 days! I, too, think we can get something tonight, but the bookies seem to think otherwise. 9/1 odds for us to win at most bookies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nokesy Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 As good as I think Konsa has been I think Engels should come back in for this one. Guys been a rock all season and I think Mings plays better beside him. Wouldn’t be surprised to see McGinn rested and Nakamba bought in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted December 4, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2019 I think we should start the same as against Man Utd other than the two forced changes: Heaton Elmo Konsa Mings Targett McGinn Luiz Hourihane Trez Wesley Grealish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: I think we should start the same as against Man Utd other than the two forced changes: Heaton Elmo Konsa Mings Targett McGinn Luiz Hourihane Trez Wesley Grealish Dreading seeing Hourihane come up in midfield against Kante. I'd bring in Marv for this game, doesn't matter for who tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Looking forward to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 4, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2019 What I gather is we can win anyone on a good day. Unfortunately we can also lose to anyone on another day. And we can definitely lose to Chelsea away. Somehow I'm still hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, AVTuco said: What I gather is we can win anyone on a good day. Unfortunately we can also lose to anyone on another day. And we can definitely lose to Chelsea away. Somehow I'm still hopeful. Yep, we’ve definitely got a chance. I’m predicting we’ll either win, or lose. Unless we draw that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Rob182 said: I, too, think we can get something tonight, but the bookies seem to think otherwise. 9/1 odds for us to win at most bookies! Good odds those to be fair. Chelsea have given us some right spankings over the years, 7-1 8-0 and a few 4-0 would be lovely to beat them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 No idea which way this will go. Feel a bit confident and a bit worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 6 hours ago, villabromsgrove said: Our record tells us that we don't tend to lose with Hourihane in the team .... So why leave him out this evening? I don't think he showed enough against Man Utd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 6 hours ago, villabromsgrove said: Our record tells us that we don't tend to lose with Hourihane in the team .... So why leave him out this evening? Correlation, causation etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I do wonder wether Deano will try a three at the back with Targett and Elmo as wing backs. I think it could work well for us and enable both Mings and Konsa to join in the attacks whilst helping to provide a bit more solidity at set pieces (which is a recurring weakness) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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