MrBlack Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) As one of very few players we'll be able to put in any future Europe match day squad as a "club developed player" I think we'll keep him, or sell him for a very high amount. Only two better strikers in the champ per minute played, and they're both over 27 and in their prime. We paid nearly 30m for Watkins who'd never done anything in the PL. And that was 3 years ago now. The inflation since is crazy. If we sell him for less than 30m I'll be shocked and disappointed. Honestly though, I think we'll keep him as I don't think many clubs would meet the asking price we'll set. Just because it's all FFP profit, doesn't mean we accept less than the market says he's worth. Edited May 5, 2023 by MrBlack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Fifteen minutes to go against Wolves, 1-0 down, we could really use someone like Archer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Something we will never know, but if we had kept him this season I just wonder how many goals he would have scored, considering how many chances we have created which have been wasted, since Emery came in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Enda said: Fifteen minutes to go against Wolves, 1-0 down, we could really use someone like Archer. Is Archer better than Ollie at feeding off nothing? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 I do think we should keep him here next season as I'm not confident Duran is ready for this level and maybe he is the one we should loan out next season instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Is Archer better than Ollie at feeding off nothing? No but he’s better than Buendia when he gets it in the box. Whether he gets it in the box or not without Buendia on the field is another debate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 I just think he would have been a better option than Duran at this stage of their careers. We had a chance of Europe but the lack of a goal threat other than Watkins I think has cost us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2023 20 hours ago, AntrimBlack said: Something we will never know, but if we had kept him this season I just wonder how many goals he would have scored, considering how many chances we have created which have been wasted, since Emery came in. If he hadn't gone on loan I don't think he would have developed into what he's become. Particularly as we've gone out of cups so early. Just wouldn't have got enough minutes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 20 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Is Archer better than Ollie at feeding off nothing? Its a good point. I think JV its as much about synchronisation, as anything.....strikers knowing when to run, and midfielders knowing when to pick them out.....both have a responsibilty to make it work. but how can a midfielder, make THAT pass, when he keeps being taken out, they have to pass and move better and quicker, to resist it.....We are simply too slow, and get clattered out of the game, so everything just shuts down and everyone looks poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 3 hours ago, sidcow said: If he hadn't gone on loan I don't think he would have developed into what he's become. Particularly as we've gone out of cups so early. Just wouldn't have got enough minutes. The fact that boro tried to buy him and were told where to go suggests that its exactly why he went on loan. He can do the goalscoring bit which is the hard part , but he wasnt really assisting and not brilliant with his back to goal. Both of those things have changed , still can struggle with holding the ball up but his ability to create chances has improved beyond belief. Even if he had stayed with Ings leaving he would not have got the experience needed. Is he good enough for us.? Absolutely. Will the luck of the gods happen for him . Remains to be seen. Agbonlahor would have never got a chance if there hadnt been a striker crisis Barry might have never got the games if Unsworth hadnt done a u turn. Its luck sometimes . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 23 hours ago, PaulC said: I just think he would have been a better option than Duran at this stage of their careers. We had a chance of Europe but the lack of a goal threat other than Watkins I think has cost us. I think so too paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Just scored against Chaventry City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Eleven goals and six assists in nineteen and a half games at Championship level is some going to be fair to him. Such a shame about Ramsey's injury as was looking to be course for double figures himself, but Carrick said that he's having treatment with and them, so I think that's an indication that he might have at least an outside chance of playing some part int he play-offs, as if he was ruled out completely I don't think he would be having any treatment at all with them, would just return to us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Absolute madness how great a finisher he is. And ehs really stepped his game up in terms of his shot creation, interplay, hold up play and dribbling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 I think we'd be mad to let him go without at least giving him a chance in the PL next season. You just know if he's sold during the next window he'll go on to have a great season with Boro or one of the other teams either promoted or in the play offs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 8, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 8, 2023 42 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: Absolute madness how great a finisher he is. And ehs really stepped his game up in terms of his shot creation, interplay, hold up play and dribbling. Right. How quickly can we sell him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Went off with a knock after 75 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Hope he is back for the playoffs and can sink coventrys chances! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Just kicked off against Coventry and Archer starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Hoping he gets a hattrick today and sinks their play off final hopes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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