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Very sloppy in possession sometimes, woeful wayward passing, not paying attention etc... we lose possession way too much and sometimes under no pressure. Our concentration needs a lot of work otherwise the better teams will take advantage. Still think we'll win though.

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3 minutes ago, Chindie said:

If stuff like that starts being given as a penalty the games ****.

I agree but if a ball hits the hand in the box then its handball. Apparently.

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6 minutes ago, Ingram85 said:

I agree but if a ball hits the hand in the box then its handball. Apparently.

Only if the arm is used to make yourself bigger.

Ball bounces up off the floor and her elbows were tucked in so right decision.

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13 minutes ago, Ingram85 said:

I agree but if a ball hits the hand in the box then its handball. Apparently.

Indeed, though I heard Philippe Auclair quote the current laws on a podcast (though I've not looked into them so can't say whether what he said was true edit - I've found a link here on a referee's association website with next year's laws) and there's provision to not award a penalty if the ball hits a player's arm directly off another body part or even another "close player" - as long as the handball doesn't result in a goal/goal scoring opportunity.

I think the following "explanation notes" somewhat make a mockery of what we've seen since the CL final:

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  • If the ball comes off the player’s body, or off another player (of either team) who is•close by, onto the hands/arms it is often impossible to avoid contact with the ball
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Handball - Law 12

Changes
  • Deliberate handball remains an offence
  • The following ‘handball’ situations, even if accidental, will be a free kick:
    • The ball goes into the goal after touching an attacking player’s hand/arm
    • A player gains control/possession of the ball after it has touches their hand/arm•and then scores, or creates a goal-scoring opportunity
    • The ball touches a player’s hand/arm which has made their body unnaturally bigger
    • The ball touches a player’s hand/arm when it is above their shoulder (unless the player has deliberately played the ball which then touches their hand/arm)
 
  • The following will not usually be a free kick, unless they are one of the above situations:
    • The ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from their own head/body/foot or the head/body/foot of another player who is close/near
    • The ball touches a player’s hand/arm which is close to their body and has not made their body unnaturally bigger
    • If a player is falling and the ball touches their hand/arm when it is between their body and the ground to support the body (but not extended to make the body bigger)
    • If the goalkeeper attempts to ‘clear’ (release into play) a throw-in or deliberate kick from a team-mate but the ‘clearance’ fails, the goalkeeper can then handle the ball

Explanation
Greater clarity is needed for handball, especially on those occasions when ‘non- d•eliberate’ handball is an offence. The re-wording follows a number of principles:
  • Football does not accept a goal being scored by a hand/arm (even if accidental)
  • Football expects a player to be penalised for handball if they gain possession/control of the ball from their hand/arm and gain a major advantage e.g. score or create a goal-scoring opportunity
  • It is natural for a player to put their arm between their body and the ground for support when falling.
  • Having the hand/arm above shoulder height is rarely a ‘natural’ position and a player is ‘taking a risk’ by having the hand/arm in that position, including whensliding
  • If the ball comes off the player’s body, or off another player (of either team) who is•close by, onto the hands/arms it is often impossible to avoid contact with the ball
  • When the GK clearly kicks or tries to kick the ball into play, this shows no intention to handle the ball so, if the ‘clearance’ attempt is unsuccessful, the goalkeeper can then handle the ball without committing an offence

 

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2 minutes ago, Michelsen said:

I just feel a bit sorry for Norway’s manager. Being completely schooled by Phil Neville. Oh, the humiliation. 

If he fancies giving up the football career he can become a legend if he could just go and wrap that trombone around the clearing in the woods in the stands throat.

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