kurtsimonw Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ingram85 said: Utter bullshit. How is she supposed to get her hand out of the way from that close? It's impossible. No unnatural movement. The official rules are ruining it. It was probably going in. It would've been utter bullshit for a hand to stop a goal. The handball rule has been terrible for years, all this accidental handball bollocks looks like it's finally been put to bed, a handball is a handball as much as a foul is a foul. Or should we only give free kicks for fouls that were intended to foul? Edited June 25, 2019 by kurtsimonw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 25, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) Yep. If it hits your hand it’s handball. I think that’s how it should be. Was it an accident? Tough. Handball. Take the discretion out of it. (But I agree that’s not a handball in the current rules. But the rules are crap) Edited June 25, 2019 by Stevo985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Reminds me of United/PSG game, defenders should have arms down. If leave arm out you are asking for trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Yep. If it hits your hand it’s handball. I think that’s how it should be. Was it an accident? Tough. Handball. Take the discretion out of it. (But I agree that’s not a handball in the current rules. But the rules are crap) But like Rev says, you'll then just get an increase of incidents where attackers are purposefully aiming for oppositions hands when in the area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Ingram85 said: But like Rev says, you'll then just get an increase of incidents where attackers are purposefully aiming for oppositions hands when in the area. I agree, attackers will chip them towards defenders hands and arms. It'll be like hockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 I know when I'm running in to the box, the first thing I'd be looking at is where defenders arms are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: I know when I'm running in to the box, the first thing I'd be looking at is where defenders arms are. But there are players who regularly cheat to gain an advantage, this will be another way to do so I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Harsh pen but that’s the rules, Holland lucky. Japan by far the better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Really shit that. But I think Grealish might be quite good at it. Get scooping it up into hands Jacko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 26, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2019 9 hours ago, Ingram85 said: But like Rev says, you'll then just get an increase of incidents where attackers are purposefully aiming for oppositions hands when in the area. That doesn't bother me. The current rules are awful. Handballs are hardly ever deliberate, yet that seems to be the key point of the rule at the moment. It leaves too much discretion in it. If the rule was it hits your hand then it's handball then that would take all of that discretion out. Yeah it might lead to some gamesmanship, but I think the positives would outweigh it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 26, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2019 You know what I've seen it again and I take it back. I think that's a penalty in that Japan Netherlands game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LakotaDakota Posted June 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: You know what I've seen it again and I take it back. I think that's a penalty in that Japan Netherlands game. Good, Job you're not doing the VAR. 10 hour delay is a bit much 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) Seems like the women's game has improved alot, and i've enjoyed it at times. Just a massive shame that VAR has completely ruined most of the fun for me. Utter shambles. Edited June 26, 2019 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) 7 out of 8 teams in the quarter final are European. Only the US who squeezed past Spain got through. Beginning to look like the men's game in this aspect. Might be a one off but Brazil have a quite old squad and their biggest start are hanging up their boots. The US will remain strong but almost half of their squad is 30 or older, only 3 players are under 25. Canada Probably fine as well? Japan flopped but have a fairly young squad and I've no idea about China, they seem to have dropped off from where they used to to. Same with North Korea who used to be quite good. Don't see the African nations ever catching up, they'll never have the resources given to then needed to succeed. Australia and New Zealand used to be fairly strong-ish. With more and more money in the European women football and big clubs (Juve, Lyon, PSG, Man C, Barca, Real, Wolfsburg, Chelsea, Bayern...) taking over the game from the smaller clubs who used to dominate 10 or so years ago I think it will move in the direction of the men's game. Good in some ways, not so good in other ways I guess. For the casual watcher like me the quality of football will continue to improve I imagine so that's nice. Edited. Edited June 26, 2019 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 23 minutes ago, sne said: Bit strange that the OFC only get 1 spot since both Australia and New Zealand (used to be?) are fairly strong. Both were in the World Cup this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Both were in the World Cup this year Oh yeah, They are Asians now. I forgot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 26, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 hours ago, villalad21 said: Seems like the women's game has improved alot, and i've enjoyed it at times. Just a massive shame that VAR has completely ruined most of the fun for me. Utter shambles. Really? The game last night what fantastic, and I can't think of one moment where VAR even remotely ruined it. Though, I haven't been paying attention to too many other games in fairness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, sne said: 7 out of 8 teams in the quarter final are European. Only the US who squeezed past Spain got through. Beginning to look like the men's game in this aspect. Might be a one off but Brazil have a quite old squad and their biggest start are hanging up their boots. The US will remain strong but almost half of their squad is 30 or older, only 3 players are under 25. Canada Probably fine as well? Japan flopped but have a fairly young squad and I've no idea about China, they seem to have dropped off from where they used to to. Same with North Korea who used to be quite good. Don't see the African nations ever catching up, they'll never have the resources given to then needed to succeed. Australia and New Zealand used to be fairly strong-ish. With more and more money in the European women football and big clubs (Juve, Lyon, PSG, Man C, Barca, Real, Wolfsburg, Chelsea, Bayern...) taking over the game from the smaller clubs who used to dominate 10 or so years ago I think it will move in the direction of the men's game. Good in some ways, not so good in other ways I guess. For the casual watcher like me the quality of football will continue to improve I imagine so that's nice. Edited. I think the U.S will always stay strong for the women. Soccer is such a popular sport among the girls. The reason why men suck at it is because it isn't as popular for boys. American Football, Baseball, Basketball are still dominant. Edited June 26, 2019 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I think the U.S will always stay strong for the women. Soccer is such a popular sport among the girls. The reason why men suck at it is because it isn't as popular for boys. American Football, Baseball, Basketball are still dominant. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 England winning early goal! Have to say the quality for that goal was so poor. That was like league two football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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