Tomaszk Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, lexicon said: He's not made an error. He's been **** over by a ridiculous interpretation of the rules. Correct. Watkins gets blown for a foul immediately. He doesn't have the ball yet. What happens if he reaches trying to head it, flicks it on and Rodri is through on goal? Ref wouldn't blow? Of course he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Here's the rule apparently "A player in an offside position, receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, is not considered to have gained an advantage." Could argue that its a shit rule, but if its true, then there's some argument he's technically onside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, TrentVilla said: Well Rio Ferdinand disagrees and I agree with him. Well I think you're both wrong, sorry. They said the rule was that he 'played the ball' - he didn't play the ball, he was controlling it and was tackled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 20, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, AVTuco said: Obviously it is a mistake by Mings, but it shouldn't matter. Ref whistles, as he should, and we're not discussing it now. I agree. That it should have been offside doesn’t negate the error from Mings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, TrentVilla said: Well Rio Ferdinand disagrees and I agree with him. Just to flag Robbie Savage also disagrees. I don't agree with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Risso Posted January 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2021 He should never have been brought straight back for Hause last time. He thinks he's undroppable, and he shouldn't be. Two games, two mistakes, two goals, and we lose both of them. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, Laughable Chimp said: Here's the rule apparently "A player in an offside position, receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, is not considered to have gained an advantage." Could argue that its a shit rule, but if its true, then there's some argument he's technically onside What does 'play the ball' mean, exactly? That for me is the crux of the matter - for me that's a pass or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 20, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, lexicon said: Well I think you're both wrong, sorry. They said the rule was that he 'played the ball' - he didn't play the ball, he was controlling it and was tackled. I agree, as did Ferdinand. It was a mistake it needlessly take it down, the poor chest down was a mistake. I’m not saying it wasn’t offside it clearly was but that doesn’t negate the error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MentalM Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Its an error yes, but does seems to be a controversial rule which many players and pundits are unaware of None the lese, lets not slag off one of our most important defenders in recent years. He was a key person in keeping city at bay for such a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Risso said: He should never have been brought straight back for Hause last time. He thinks he's undroppable, and he shouldn't be. Two games, two mistakes, two goals, and we lose both of them. Such absolute nonsense. Based on what, exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 20, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Tomaszk said: Just to flag Robbie Savage also disagrees. I don't agree with him. Savage said the same as Ferdinand, player error and offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, TrentVilla said: I agree, as did Ferdinand. It was a mistake it needlessly take it down, the poor chest down was a mistake. I’m not saying it wasn’t offside it clearly was but that doesn’t negate the error. But it does, though - it's a ridiculous refereeing decision 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 20, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, lexicon said: But it does, though - it's a ridiculous refereeing decision No it doesn’t and yes it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I don't want him replaced yet, we have higher priorities. I'd certainly like him to be dropped for a couple of games for Hause though. He needs to know he's not an automatic first pick if he keeps making mistakes. Certainly wouldn’t disagree with that. Hause was very unlucky to lose his place straight away after his performances I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Does the mistake not get cancelled out by the fact it was offside? I've been shouted on here for criticising Ming's errors, but today I thought he was genuinely superb for most of the game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 It’s all well and good defending brilliantly for 89 minutes of each match but if you consistently make mistakes that lead to goals then questions need to be asked. I like big Tyrone but these mistakes are starting to get to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted January 20, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, TrentVilla said: Savage said the same as Ferdinand, player error and offside. Ref should've whistled when he saw danger. And I'm sure he did. Everybody did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, lexicon said: Such absolute nonsense. Based on what, exactly? Absolutely nothing. Just something people like using as a dig. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, VillanousOne said: Does the mistake not get cancelled out by the fact it was offside? I've been shouted on here for criticising Ming's errors, but today I thought he was genuinely superb for most of the game. Not for me. One of the full backs could have been sitting on the floor injured playing someone on and even just being out of line etc, you play to the whistle. Mings took a risk and paid for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted January 20, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Risso said: He should never have been brought straight back for Hause last time. He thinks he's undroppable, and he shouldn't be. Two games, two mistakes, two goals, and we lose both of them. the fact that until then he'd played a blinder, a key role in keeping the score 0-0 against the best team in the league, i presume is totally lost on you? why focus on the 1 negative and ignore all his other contributions in these games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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