Aston_Villan4 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, FLVillan said: You might want to watch the two Arsenal goals again. Let Jesus run across him on the first (after both Cash and Konsa had stood off their respective men). On the second he did what he's been doing for three seasons now. Stood three yards off his man (Saka), let him get it onto his strong foot and pick a pass, six yards away from our goal. He is a terrible 1v1 defender and has been responsible for so many moments like that. Shouting and yelling and pointing can't mask it. Posting on social media doesn't make him a good 1v1 defender. Sounds like you have a personal problem against him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chips'ngravy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 hour ago, FLVillan said: You might want to watch the two Arsenal goals again. Let Jesus run across him on the first (after both Cash and Konsa had stood off their respective men). On the second he did what he's been doing for three seasons now. Stood three yards off his man (Saka), let him get it onto his strong foot and pick a pass, six yards away from our goal. He is a terrible 1v1 defender and has been responsible for so many moments like that. Shouting and yelling and pointing can't mask it. Posting on social media doesn't make him a good 1v1 defender. First goal he switched off thinking the danger had gone. Not so sure about the second being poor defending on his part. I'd look more at the space Martinelli found himself in so close to goal. I was, however, concerned early on when he was favourite for a ball that Jesus was chasing (after the casual Kamara back heel into danger) but was easily shrugged off it as Jesus just got his body across him. Luckily, Saka couldn't finish a simple chance and Cash cleared. If we can be rational for a moment and not get sucked into a culture war over the issue I'd say Gerrard's antipathy towards Mings has some legitimate basis. The problem is how he's managed the whole situation, particularly so given the options we have available in central defence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Oh great we’re back to every goal being Mings’s fault again 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, FLVillan said: You might want to watch the two Arsenal goals again. Let Jesus run across him on the first (after both Cash and Konsa had stood off their respective men). On the second he did what he's been doing for three seasons now. Stood three yards off his man (Saka), let him get it onto his strong foot and pick a pass, six yards away from our goal. He is a terrible 1v1 defender and has been responsible for so many moments like that. Shouting and yelling and pointing can't mask it. Posting on social media doesn't make him a good 1v1 defender. you might want to watch them again... the first goal is because ramsey and cash both press the arsenal left back whilst kamara and konsa stand and watch xhaka ghost in to our penalty area and get a shot off and even then its a deflection but martinez has to do better, yes mings also has to do better but **** hell thats awful from konsa , he's marking no one (again) 2nd goal for me is all cash, not only does he lose the flight of the ball on the first long ball he's then completely lost martinelli, the other interesting thing with it is that we've got ourselves in to a mess at the back when closing down saka because mings and digne rushed out to put pressure on the arsenal player on the edge of the box because we have a non existent midfield, he's once again scrambling rather than holding his position, watch the build up saka isnt his man jesus is but he has to leave him because of how badly we set up, again its not perfect defending he can get closer and apply more pressure but he's chose to stand him up and make him pick a pass, its cash not marking his man that makes that pass easy not mings standing off the main point being both goals are once again a comedy of errors that somehow land at mings' feet when he's not the main culprit Edited September 1, 2022 by villa4europe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post a m ole Posted September 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: you might want to watch them again... the first goal is because ramsey and cash both press the arsenal left back whilst kamara and konsa stand and watch xhaka ghost in to our penalty area and get a shot off and even then its a deflection but martinez has to do better, yes mings also has to do better but **** hell thats awful from konsa , he's marking no one (again) 2nd goal for me is all cash, not only does he lose the flight of the ball on the first long ball he's then completely lost martinelli, the other interesting thing with it is that we've got ourselves in to a mess at the back when closing down saka because mings and digne rushed out to put pressure on the arsenal player on the edge of the box because we have a non existent midfield, he's once again scrambling rather than holding his position, watch the build up saka isnt his man jesus is but he has to leave him because of how badly we set up, again its not perfect defending he can get closer and apply more pressure but he's chose to stand him up and make him pick a pass, its cash not marking his man that makes that pass easy not mings standing off the main point being both goals are once again a comedy of errors that somehow land at mings' feet when he's not the main culprit He gets blamed for expecting his fellow players to actually be doing what they’re expected to do and not **** up, it’s wild. Constantly put in situations where it’s damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t. so annoying as well because he’s not always completely blameless, he was a little naive early on letting Jesus get his leg across his body so he couldn’t use his strength without giving away a pen which was a much bigger “mistake”, but it’s so overblown to the point of insanity. Watch Van Dijk this season, he’s had ‘errors in him’ all season, isn’t it amazing when the front 6 aren’t quite functioning and full backs are getting caught out that suddenly the worlds best ever CB starts to look fallible. Edited September 1, 2022 by a m ole 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonVillian Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 5 hours ago, FLVillan said: You might want to watch the two Arsenal goals again. Let Jesus run across him on the first (after both Cash and Konsa had stood off their respective men). On the second he did what he's been doing for three seasons now. Stood three yards off his man (Saka), let him get it onto his strong foot and pick a pass, six yards away from our goal. He is a terrible 1v1 defender and has been responsible for so many moments like that. Shouting and yelling and pointing can't mask it. Posting on social media doesn't make him a good 1v1 defender. Exposing your complete lack of football knowledge here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 The whole team was abysmal yesterday; not one person did their job properly, and that includes Mings. It seems fair to point that out on the thread about him. His passing stats were the worst of any outfield player, which played its part in us being under constant pressure. He wasn't solely to blame for any of the goals, but played his part in them. He was also poor for Gabriel's early effort, and against Jesus when Odegaard had a couple of attempts. Cash should have done better for the first goal, and Martinez definielty should. That doesn't excuse Mings switching off to leave Jesus with an easy tap in though. For the second, again not all his fault, and again poor from Cash and Martinez, but Mings didn't do enough to close down Saka. If having an opinion is having an agenda or trolling, then hey ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted September 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: you might want to watch them again... the first goal is because ramsey and cash both press the arsenal left back whilst kamara and konsa stand and watch xhaka ghost in to our penalty area and get a shot off and even then its a deflection but martinez has to do better, yes mings also has to do better but **** hell thats awful from konsa , he's marking no one (again) 2nd goal for me is all cash, not only does he lose the flight of the ball on the first long ball he's then completely lost martinelli, the other interesting thing with it is that we've got ourselves in to a mess at the back when closing down saka because mings and digne rushed out to put pressure on the arsenal player on the edge of the box because we have a non existent midfield, he's once again scrambling rather than holding his position, watch the build up saka isnt his man jesus is but he has to leave him because of how badly we set up, again its not perfect defending he can get closer and apply more pressure but he's chose to stand him up and make him pick a pass, its cash not marking his man that makes that pass easy not mings standing off the main point being both goals are once again a comedy of errors that somehow land at mings' feet when he's not the main culprit 1st goal Cash and Ramsey close the player down but neither of them get close enough to him, he can easily pass the ball straight through. One should go to him, offer him the outside and the other should stand off a bit. None of our defence came out looking good but Ming's was the best out of them all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 He was the best of a bad bunch in our back 5 (including Martinez) but I don't think that says much to be honest. The two goals we conceded were absolutely dreadful goals with several culprits to blame in the build ups. On last night's performance I'd rate Martinez 5 Cash 3 Digne 5 Mings 6 Konsa 4 - You need to be hitting 8's and 9's if you've any chance of coming back with 3 points. I'd still easily have him captain over McGinn though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Had Haaland in his pocket. Legend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 My captain. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Loom at him chest bumping and high fiving in the last 10 mins, see what it means My captain 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Got bullied against Arsenal at crucial moments. Did much better today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post a m ole Posted September 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2022 I was there watching the game, and he was dismal. Caughtin no man's land time and time again, and forever giving the ball away. Watch the goal again on Sky or BT, he was goal side of Haaland, then just leaves him alone, giving the City player a simple tap in for the first goal. He was dreadful all night. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Had Haaland in his pocket. Legend. I was confident he would. This is his kind of game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moustache of Teale Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, a m ole said: I was there watching the game, and he was dismal. Caughtin no man's land time and time again, and forever giving the ball away. Watch the goal again on Sky or BT, he was goal side of Haaland, then just leaves him alone, giving the City player a simple tap in for the first goal. He was dreadful all night. Is that you Stevie? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr_Dogg Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Had Haaland in his pocket. Legend. Apart from that teeny tiny goal... But he had a good game, I think he enjoyed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Mr_Dogg said: Apart from that teeny tiny goal... But he had a good game, I think he enjoyed it. Looked to me at the time like it was Konsa who lost him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moustache of Teale Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, a m ole said: I know you were jesting mate, I could see your post a couple above 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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