Zhan_Zhuang Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Southgate picks Maguire. Souness hasn't managed in ages. Gerrard seems to have limited judgement at this point. Smith got sacked after he dropped Mings. But, I can see how Mings is a droppable player. You are right, outside Villa he isn't universally praised. My issue isn't with dropping Mings. It's with giving the captaincy to a player who is arguably just as droppable. There must be something behind the scenes that we will not know about until Gerrard or Mings write a book. I agree with this, it is baffling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AvonVillain Posted August 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2022 "MIngs is a poor defender!" I've been listening to more and more TalkSport lately for some reason, but this kind of extreme-for-the-sake-it BS from Simon Jordan really puts me off. Tyrone Mings is clearly an excellent defender and one of the best club captains Villa have had in the modern era. He makes mistakes, as we all know, like every player, but defenders rarely get away with it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: I like Mings, however I'm not a professional footballer or coach/Manager. First Southgate, then Gerrard, now Souness are three who do not rate him... Maybe Carlos and Chambers are the two then? Because Konsa is pretty average too...and may have played himself out of the team. I don't think it's the fact he has been dropped but more the entire noise a round it. Gerrard could well do without extra sticks to beat him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Form is temporary, class is permanent. He was picked for England on merit and captained Villa on merit. This is leaving a sour taste for me. I'm all for Gerrard making his mark but not at the risk of toxicity. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, AvonVillain said: "MIngs is a poor defender!" I've been listening to more and more TalkSport lately for some reason, but this kind of extreme-for-the-sake-it BS from Simon Jordan really puts me off. Tyrone Mings is clearly an excellent defender and one of the best club captains Villa have had in the modern era. He makes mistakes, as we all know, like every player, but defenders rarely get away with it. He's not allowed to make mistakes, both on the pitch and in life it seems. He is held to an impossible standard. Some people just can't stand him being successful, and then confident on top of that so they over-scrutinize him. Every mistake is calamitous which must make him a poor defender. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 hours ago, briny_ear said: Wish people would stop posting this utterly unfunny shit. Or maybe there could be a separate thread for it? Maybe there's a way in which I or others wanting to post funny shit could send it through you first so you could vet it. Wouldn't like i make the mistake of posting unfunny shit again, thanks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted August 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2022 31 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: I like Mings, however I'm not a professional footballer or coach/Manager. First Southgate, then Gerrard, now Souness are three who do not rate him... Maybe Carlos and Chambers are the two then? Because Konsa is pretty average too...and may have played himself out of the team. southgate has dropped him from one squad in recent times gerrard has dropped him from one game since being manager to automatically say that they don't rate him as a result of these 2 instances is a bit of an overstatement IMO and this is the same souness said the reason grealish gets fouled so much is because he holds onto the ball too long and that the reason we beat liverpool 7-2 was because the grass was too long 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted August 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, AvonVillain said: "MIngs is a poor defender!" I've been listening to more and more TalkSport lately for some reason, but this kind of extreme-for-the-sake-it BS from Simon Jordan really puts me off. Tyrone Mings is clearly an excellent defender and one of the best club captains Villa have had in the modern era. He makes mistakes, as we all know, like every player, but defenders rarely get away with it. gets people clicking, talking about it, and listening in though doesn't it...... it's just a pantomime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 I was gonna say...Souness' opinion cannot be taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 hours ago, MaVilla said: Ben Foster gives his thoughts. 'It's world class lads. Stripping your captain of the armband. Wow. World class. Wooooorld class. Its wicked. Proper wicked yeah." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newry_Villan Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Dropping the leader of the group is obviously going affect the squad and I think that showed on Saturday. We know he has his lapses in concentration but he is still the leader, armband or not. Gerrard calling him out will backfire. Tyrone will be here longer than Gerrard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonVillain Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Newry_Villan said: Tyrone will be here longer than Gerrard. Everything currently points in this direction. Maybe this why Sanson is happy to put out sarcastic social media posts and stick around for the time being watching this kind of Brian Clough at Leeds-esque professional suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, AvonVillain said: Everything currently points in this direction. Maybe this why Sanson is happy to put out sarcastic social media posts and stick around for the time being watching this kind of Brian Clough at Leeds-esque professional suicide. If players want to get their manager sacked, they play like we did on the weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 One of them will be gone in the next couple weeks. This sort of nonsense is embarrassing and stinks of excuses why he is being sold. If you want to sell him, fine sell him for football and financial reasons, makes zero sense slating him in public which I would guess would make his price cheaper. Smith made reference to one or 2 players having too much power and were too vocal last summer, I suspected at the time it was mings, even if yhat were slippy g's reasoning, just move him on rather than petty snide comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newry_Villan Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, a-k said: If players want to get their manager sacked, they play like we did on the weekend *cough* Roy Hodgson and Gerrard missed penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, tomav84 said: simon jordan hasn't a clue. I think it gives food for thought… I’m not happy with how the whole captaincy thing has been carried out….but… how many times has Mings been slammed on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, a-k said: If players want to get their manager sacked, they play like we did on the weekend Neither Sanson or Mings played on the weekend. If it his “mates” that he pick regarding their form, that want him sacked, he is in real trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2022 Gerrard's put Tyrone in "his place" and then rubs it in with some public comments. I don't like it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioVilla Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Not going to be a popular opinion, but I agree with Gerrard, as far as Mings spot in the team. Now I don't think Konsa deserves it either, but Mings hasn't shown the capabilities to be in a better form than Chambers at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted August 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2022 22 minutes ago, Tayls said: I think it gives food for thought… I’m not happy with how the whole captaincy thing has been carried out….but… how many times has Mings been slammed on here? too many, most of which undeserved (IMO) when we lose and he plays i avoid this thread because there are some posters that work very hard to attribute every goal to mings in some way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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