7392craig Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Are we? I dont think mings is valuable as he was once was. Konsa and hause have really stepped up Konsa clearly has the higher ceiling and as I’ve said in another thread, he looks the business this season, looking every bit the investment atm. But even so I don’t think it should be underestimated what Tyrone brings to our back 5, even if he has got the odd error in him. His passing is key to our play at times, he reads the game well and he is the ‘talker’ of the CB pairing. Another thing to note is that it’s always him who Martinez is shouting instructions to, I think he’s sort of seen as a vice captain to the players. It’s not always ability, sometimes it’s what the person brings to the side. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Just now, 7392craig said: Another thing to note is that it’s always him who Martinez is shouting instructions to, I think he’s sort of seen as a vice captain to the players. It’s not always ability, sometimes it’s what the person brings to the side. Either that or Martinez has sussed out that he gives away more chances than anybody else... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thug Posted December 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 Let’s not attack any of our players now. He's a huge part of the turnaround from championship mediocrity to premier league domination. Yes, he has an error in him, yes he has a nasty streak that rears its head every now and again, but this is the guy that wore his villa kit back to Bournemouth. Plays with his heart on his sleeve. He will be suspended, and will have to fight for his place back in the team - which will not be easy. This is punishment enough. 23 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7392craig Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, Risso said: Either that or Martinez has sussed out that he gives away more chances than anybody else... Quite possible, I was talking more in regards to organisation but I get what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AVTuco Posted December 26, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, Thug said: Let’s not attack any of our players now. He's a huge part of the turnaround from championship mediocrity to premier league domination. Yes, he has an error in him, yes he has a nasty streak that rears its head every now and again, but this is the guy that wore his villa kit back to Bournemouth. Plays with his heart on his sleeve. He will be suspended, and will have to fight for his place back in the team - which will not be easy. This is punishment enough. Agreed. I don't like some of the stuff I read on some web sites from "fans". Our team has a great atmosphere, and Mings is a big part of it, I think. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 (edited) The second yellow was silly but the first was a bit unlucky. For that reason a soft sending off really. What annoyed me is that Milojevic should have got a second yellow for his cynical tackle in the second half. No different from Mings one on Zaha! I'm glad he's got a "nasty" streak in him because you need that in a team. Edited December 26, 2020 by birdman 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 If Hause puts in another good performance next game(which he'll have the chance too), I think I'll solidly be in the Hause starts in place of Mings camp. But if Hause starts having bad games again, I'd like Mings to come in again. Or Konsa for that matter if it happens to him. Isn't it great to have 3 centrebacks who can all come in for each other when any one of them is off form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: If Hause puts in another good performance next game(which he'll have the chance too), I think I'll solidly be in the Hause starts in place of Mings camp. But if Hause starts having bad games again, I'd like Mings to come in again. Or Konsa for that matter if it happens to him. Isn't it great to have 3 centrebacks who can all come in for each other when any one of them is off form? I think all villa fans were very concerned about our subs but its great how they've stepped up when needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted December 26, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2020 I still love him...yellows were both harsh for me. Hause and konsa have come on leaps and bounds giving deano a nice headache to have once ty has served his suspension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 26, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 26, 2020 He should lose his place in the side now and have to earn it back or wait his chance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 I'm having trouble linking the tweet, but this is as classy acknowledgement. Big mistake today but he's still so important to the team. Performance of the season that second half; lads were absolutely unreal!! I put the team in a horrible situation & I take full responsibility for that, but what a response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 1 minute ago, av1 said: I'm having trouble linking the tweet, but this is as classy acknowledgement. Big mistake today but he's still so important to the team. Fair play to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, av1 said: I'm having trouble linking the tweet, but this is as classy acknowledgement. Big mistake today but he's still so important to the team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Just now, YouUnastanFren said: Thanks mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, av1 said: I'm having trouble linking the tweet, but this is as classy acknowledgement. Big mistake today but he's still so important to the team. Hopefully he will be able to reflect on this and work out how to keep as calm under provocation as he normally does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KenjiOgiwara Posted December 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 (edited) I'm absolutely baffled at anyone criticising his performance or value to us. Swear we can't watch the same sport. Love super Mings. Edited December 26, 2020 by KenjiOgiwara 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Just now, briny_ear said: Hopefully he will be able to reflect on this and work out how to keep as calm under provocation as he normally does. The second was stupid mate, but I think the first was harsh, he was basically stopping Zaha swinging at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 26, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, av1 said: I'm having trouble linking the tweet, but this is as classy acknowledgement. Big mistake today but he's still so important to the team. Deeds not words is what is important. Holding his hands up is all well,. He got involved with Zaha needlessly just like he did with Bamford against Leeds and both times its impacted on him and the team. He needs to learn and he needs to up his game because aside from the bookings he was poor again today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Love big Ty but my god he needs to sort his temper out. That is one of his biggest issues, yes, aggression is good, but it needs to be controlled. He absolutely let Zaha get under his skin today, as he has done with Bamford and others in the past. He was a little bit unlucky with the first card, but stupid stupid stupid for the second. A small push from Zaha was all it needed for him to lose his head. Hopefully he has a bit of a think whilst he is watching Hause take his place against Chelsea and works on that part of his game. I get the feeling that he is also carrying a knock, so a game or two on the sidelines should be good for him. If Hause plays well against Chelsea, Mings is on the bench against ManUre IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Deeds not words is what is important. Holding his hands up is all well,. He got involved with Zaha needlessly just like he did with Bamford against Leeds and both times its impacted on him and the team. He needs to learn and he needs to up his game because aside from the bookings he was poor again today. Yes if we have a weak link in the back 4 its him not Targett( who i thought was brilliant today) or anyone else. He is good enough so needs to show it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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