Popular Post rodders0223 Posted January 29 Popular Post Share Posted January 29 Ornstein doesn't make up bullshit. I imagine we are close to FFP or it's seriously hampering us. If you don't think Monchi and Emery would sell a player for 100% profit to be reinvested you're not keeping up and are wilfully ignorant. It's the system and I **** hate it. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 9 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Selling Ramsey for us has so many factors to it. He's home grown and we need those for Europe. He's loved by fans and selling him would upset a lot of fans more than any other sale. We would also need to replace him. Remember though, just because teams are interested in a player of ours really doesn't matter in relation to us wanting to sell. Devil's advocate. Been off it after injury. Was off it several games last season near the end but came good for the run for ECL spot. If we need to sell key squad player in summer that was FFP advantageous rather him than Luiz Watkins Martinez for example. Not sure he'd have major suitors since injury that's reoccurred Edited January 29 by Kiwivillan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Indigo Posted January 29 Popular Post Share Posted January 29 (edited) I remember Gregg Evans getting absolutely ripped into for daring to suggest that Villa were quite wary of FFP/P&S and business could reflect that. Not aged too well. Wouldn't expect this to happen mind, but to accuse Ornstein of being some kind of clickbait merchant is miles off the mark. Edited January 29 by Indigo 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted January 29 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29 There are going to have to be serious decisions made in regards to getting money in, I'm not sure if we are going to like them but they are needed medium and long term. Unfortunately ramsey makes sense as did Grealish. This game is rigged! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 If it absolutely had to be one of Luiz, Kamara or Ramsey though....? That said, Newcastle can **** right off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, Indigo said: I remember Gregg Evans getting absolutely ripped into for daring to suggest that Villa were quite wary of FFP/P&S and business could reflect that. Aged well. Yeah fair call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Just now, Wainy316 said: If it absolutely had to be one of Luiz, Kamara or Ramsey though....? That said, Newcastle can **** right off! Ramsey all day long I'm afraid to say. Newcastle link is bollocks though as they don't have a pot to piss in with FFP allegedly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d821mc Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 It feels like an absolute no brainer to sell him if we get a decent enough offer. (£50m+) We simply dont have any choice. He has hardly been a factor in the success we have had to this point this season. It is just the realities of the modern game. We all hate selling home grown players and players who have come through the ranks. With the way FFP works we could strengthen massively in other areas like RB or attacking options. He just isnt irreplaceable in the way Grealish was. Hasn't played anywhere close to the same level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted January 29 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29 50m is too cheap. out of form since injury, yes, but the bang in form JJ is worth more than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted January 29 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29 39 minutes ago, CVByrne said: He's home grown and we need those for Europe. this is overlooked by a lot of folks too. we don't have many of them at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 29 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29 Wouldn't even consider selling him unless the offer was stupid. Had a disappointing season so far but it's fairly easy to put that down to the injuries/lack of pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 When we still have the likes of Bertie and Coutinho stealing a living, this is even more frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 29 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29 He's a funny one. I don't want to sell him, but I can see why it would be considered if we're getting a big fee for him. I'm not sure he's actually THAT good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: He's a funny one. I don't want to sell him, but I can see why it would be considered if we're getting a big fee for him. I'm not sure he's actually THAT good Struggles with the more intricate side of the game and that's why I wouldn't be too devastated if he went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I'm not sure he's actually THAT good Same, Whatever people see in him I don't see it. He's a decent player, he makes good forward runs but he doesn't control possession the way you would expect a midfielder to. Maybe he will improve with age. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I don't see it personally. Think this is just a bit of interest and nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I really like Ramsey but his direct style of play is one that will lead to a lot of injuries as we’ve already seen. I have a feeling he will be hampered by injuries every season. If we can get good money and it helps with FFP it wouldn’t be the worst sale in the world. Obviously would rather we kept him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 16 minutes ago, tomav84 said: 50m is too cheap. out of form since injury, yes, but the bang in form JJ is worth more than that I'd bite hand off for 50m no joke Edited January 29 by Kiwivillan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 The only way Emery would be happy to sell is if JJ's fitness/availability outlook for the future is deemed poor. If he's thought of internally as being a real injury threat in the long term, then 50m would be a good deal. But there's no way this happens based on his quality and output alone, and I don't believe we are that close to falling foul of FFP in the next 1-2 years. Buying Diaby for 50m and selling JJ for the same would be madness IMO, especially considering JJ is homegrown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 43 minutes ago, Indigo said: I remember Gregg Evans getting absolutely ripped into for daring to suggest that Villa were quite wary of FFP/P&S and business could reflect that. Not aged too well. Wouldn't expect this to happen mind, but to accuse Ornstein of being some kind of clickbait merchant is miles off the mark. People are so set on hating Gregg Evans is that they can't admit he got something right, even when it's as trivial as 'Villa are in difficulties with the same rules causing everyone else difficulties' and basically anyone at the club could have told him that. How much trouble are we in? Well, Ornstein's article may be worded in a misleading way, but he makes it sound like a lot: 'But funds must be raised before the end of June to stay compliant with profit and sustainability rules and that has alerted suitors, who believe offers above £50million will at least be contemplated. Should Villa decide to keep Ramsey, there are other ways in which the money could be found [selling Jhon Duran].' (highlight mine) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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