PussEKatt Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Either I am missing something here or everybody else is.What has DS actually done ? Has he ever won promotion Has he ever finished in the play-offs Has he ever won the FA Cup Has he ever won the Lge Cup His teams apparently play good football but thats all they do,they never win anything they just play good football.So what we have to look foreward to is a team that wins nothing but plays good football.I thought the new owners were more ambitious than that....maybe not, as they have given him a new contract. Correct me if I am wrong on any of the above.I live in Australia and watch the PL but I am not up with the play with the championship or below. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, sne said: No I absolutely think we should. But Wesley is sadly terrible at positioning himself where you'd expect a center forward to be and his runs into the box are mistimed when it comes to getting right for crosses. Our other attacking players (El Ghazi excluded) are a bit on the short side so it's crosses on the ground if we are going to score. You don't have to be great to start, but you have to start to be great. Seriously though that's something he can work on and develop. Plus I've seen Wes make at least one well timed and positioned run into the box to get on the end of a cross. I'm of the philosophy that if I play you a pass and you're trying your best to receive and it doesn't come off, it might've been a good idea but it wasn't a good enough pass. Wes won't be able to shoulder and doesn't deserve the stigma he's receiving right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post New_Hope Posted December 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: Either I am missing something here or everybody else is.What has DS actually done ? Has he ever won promotion Has he ever finished in the play-offs Not sure if serious!! 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, A'Villan said: You don't have to be great to start, but you have to start to be great. Seriously though that's something he can work on and develop. Plus I've seen Wes make at least one well timed and positioned run into the box to get on the end of a cross. I'm of the philosophy that if I play you a pass and you're trying your best to receive and it doesn't come off, it might've been a good idea but it wasn't a good enough pass. Wes won't be able to shoulder and doesn't deserve the stigma he's receiving right now. I'm sure he's made more than 1 well timed run into the box But he's played 1442 minutes of PL football this season over 17 games and not made even close to enough of those runs. He might learn to, or our players might learn his "unconventional" movement patterns. But as it is now it must be H''l for our players having to play "Where's Wesley" every time they look up and he's not where he's expected to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: Either I am missing something here or everybody else is.What has DS actually done ? Has he ever won promotion Has he ever finished in the play-offs Has he ever won the FA Cup Has he ever won the Lge Cup His teams apparently play good football but thats all they do,they never win anything they just play good football.So what we have to look foreward to is a team that wins nothing but plays good football.I thought the new owners were more ambitious than that....maybe not, as they have given him a new contract. Correct me if I am wrong on any of the above.I live in Australia and watch the PL but I am not up with the play with the championship or below. Promotion: Tick Play-offs: Tick FA Cup: No Leage Cup: Semi-final Smith will be removed if the owners believe he is no longer the man to take us forward and achieve the goals that we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: Either I am missing something here or everybody else is.What has DS actually done ? Has he ever won promotion Has he ever finished in the play-offs Has he ever won the FA Cup Has he ever won the Lge Cup His teams apparently play good football but thats all they do,they never win anything they just play good football.So what we have to look foreward to is a team that wins nothing but plays good football.I thought the new owners were more ambitious than that....maybe not, as they have given him a new contract. Correct me if I am wrong on any of the above.I live in Australia and watch the PL but I am not up with the play with the championship or below. You are missing something. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: Either I am missing something here or everybody else is.What has DS actually done ? Has he ever won promotion Has he ever finished in the play-offs erm.. last season! Very poor attempt at trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, sne said: I'm sure he's made more than 1 well timed run into the box But he's played 1442 minutes of PL football this season over 17 games and not made even close to enough of those runs. He might learn to, or our players might learn his "unconventional" movement patterns. But as it is now it must be H''l for our players having to play "Where's Wesley" every time they look up and he's not where he's expected to be. The mark of a true visionary and facilitator with the ball anticipates where the sweet spot is for his receiver and delivers it on a silver platter. We ridicule Wes but how's the delivery been from Trezeguet, El Ghazi and Jota? Targett and Guilbert (the latter better than the former imo). Sure Grealish, McGinn and Luiz can all ping a superb ball in but they are all central and vertical passes are hard to run onto unless they thread the needle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, A'Villan said: We ridicule Wes but how's the delivery been from Trezeguet, El Ghazi and Jota? Targett and Guilbert (the latter better than the former imo). There's been plenty of crossing. Wes is just nowhere to be seen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, New_Hope said: Not sure if serious!! Do you know, I dont think he has, and he has certainly never made it to the semi finals of a cup competition..... ...oh, wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 5 hours ago, villalad21 said: There's been plenty of crossing. Wes is just nowhere to be seen Ok we get it. You hate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, avfcDJ said: Ok we get it. You hate him. Nothing personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: Nothing personal. I would think 70% of your posts are Wesley related. What happens if Kodjia comes in and scores no goals in 10 games. Do you then become anti Kodjia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, avfcDJ said: I would think 70% of your posts are Wesley related. What happens if Kodjia comes in and scores no goals in 10 games. Do you then become anti Kodjia? Not too fuzzed about the lack of goals. More that he isn't able to control a football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Not too fuzzed about the lack of goals. More that he isn't able to control a football. Yeah, maybe you and wesley could get together, he could learn to control the ball, and you could learn to control your bad posting habit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Sorry, thought this was the Smith thread... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 11 hours ago, A'Villan said: Promotion: Tick Play-offs: Tick FA Cup: No Leage Cup: Semi-final Smith will be removed if the owners believe he is no longer the man to take us forward and achieve the goals that we have. Smith has his priorities all wrong if we win the cup yet get relegated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) One observation I gleaned from last nights game, and i hope Dean Smith can see it and act upon it, is....... when we are faced with teams who let us play or fail to sufficiently apply a physical challenge, as the kids did last night.....we can play, we like space and a soft opposition. We like teams who stand off against us. We created some decent stuff, because we was allowed to. When teams close us down or get in our faces.....we struggle to create anything, we don't seem to be able to win the fight, to play football, in such circumstances. I hope Dean can see this when he recruits in January. Edited December 18, 2019 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 11 hours ago, PussEKatt said: Either I am missing something here or everybody else is.What has DS actually done ? Has he ever won promotion Has he ever finished in the play-offs Has he ever won the FA Cup Has he ever won the Lge Cup His teams apparently play good football but thats all they do,they never win anything they just play good football.So what we have to look foreward to is a team that wins nothing but plays good football.I thought the new owners were more ambitious than that....maybe not, as they have given him a new contract. Correct me if I am wrong on any of the above.I live in Australia and watch the PL but I am not up with the play with the championship or below. Yeah he won promotion with us and finished in the play-offs with us and for Brentford he built about 3 different top half squads because ehis best players kept getting poached and they remained successful. And the only 2 cups he could have entered are only ever won by prem teams I don't think there has been a non-prem team win a cup in my life time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dave-R said: Smith has his priorities all wrong if we win the cup yet get relegated Smith has made at least 9 changes from the previous game for every league cup game we have played so I think we know where the priorities lie. Saying that we have to have a strong team for the semi’s. I bet you Leicester will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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