avfc1982am Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Koeman? Just is a name that springs to mind...not sure about him though personally. Give me cyanide now.. No way would I touch him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I'll have my say then sod off. We would have had more points in the bank using variations of the 433 system than we currently have. I said in the summer we needed a proper DCM and 2 full backs to either replace or seriously compete with our current first choices - This has proven correct. I think we give him a few more games, if he reverts to 3-5-2 get rid. If he plays 433 and performances improve greatly regardless of what the scoreline is then I would keep him. If we replace him we need a proven manager, none of this ex pro player with a few years experience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 The biggest joke is upsetting a solid back 5. 15 clean sheets last season!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted October 31, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2021 13 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: He has had three years and a huge amount of money to spend, I fail to see what another two or three games is going to change. Football is a funny game. Just 4 weeks ago we played well against Chelsea (still lost though) and beat both Everton and ManUre. We weren't thinking "Dean out" then and the squad was buzzing. Two or three wins would change everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 31, 2021 Moderator Share Posted October 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, vreitti said: Sometimes in football, things change suddenly. I'm still hopeful Smith will miraculously turn this around. I’m not a man of faith, I believe in things I can see. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, thefeet1980 said: Too soon to pull the trigger. But the next three games are critical. We not only need points, but we need to play much, much better. Team looks devoid of ideas (horizontal passing at the back, hoofing to the wings) and low on confidence. The nature of the Wolves defeat no doubt had an impact, but it does feel as though something isn’t right in the dressing room - not sure about the various rumours, but there’s likely no smoke without some sort of fire. If he’s lost the dressing room he has an absolute mountain to climb to keep hold of his job…. Is it? He’s been here 3 years and spent over £300m. We have no style of play and this season we have regressed. These runs of poor firm are far too frequent and this current one we have shipped 12 goals and have looked worse in every game. 7 wins in 29 suggests now is the time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman22 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 International breaks are a natural time to get rid of a manager. I think if we lose to Southampton DS will be in real trouble. We need to stop the rot on Friday night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Smith's replacement if there is to be one will be someone who's data focused or used to working in a set up where there's a big focus on data analysis, recent appointmens like Lange, Leth, McPhee, Danks, and now Trivedi, all have some sort of background in data analysis, and there's probably a good chance that so will any new coach that we might appoint. That's why I made the interesting suggestion of Ralf Rangnick, as presumably he would have been very into that whilst working with 'Red Bull'. Will have to see how we get on against Southampton, after the game has passed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, ozvillafan said: Football is a funny game. Just 4 weeks ago we played well against Chelsea (still lost though) and beat both Everton and ManUre. We weren't thinking "Dean out" then and the squad was buzzing. Two or three wins would change everything. I get this point but it isn’t just the results it’s this sudden angry disrespectful vibe around the club. And this is a ridiculous, unjustified view, but I kind of blame the appointment of Shakespeare as yet another assistant. This seems to happen wherever he goes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: I’m not a man of faith, I believe in things I can see. We can all see what's happening, or more importantly what's not happening. In general, football clubs are far too eager to pull the trigger. All good managers go through rough patches. This is Smiths first season where it's reasonable to expect more consistent performances and results. So far it's been below par, but not by much, all things considered, and we're still only a quarter into the season. Edited October 31, 2021 by vreitti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: Eddie bottled it or lost the players or something like that when they were in the relegation fight with us. They had safety in their hands and threw it away. That's a big red flag on his CV for me. Not advocating him especially. But the calibre of manager we are in for - would suggest that every potential recruit is going to have some sort of downside. I could be wrong but I don't see us going for a top notch proven guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 31, 2021 Moderator Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, ozvillafan said: Football is a funny game. Just 4 weeks ago we played well against Chelsea (still lost though) and beat both Everton and ManUre. We weren't thinking "Dean out" then and the squad was buzzing. Two or three wins would change everything. We were poor for most the game against a weak Everton side, Bailey won the game for us. The win at Old Trafford was brilliant but I’d still say there were some big doubts. Two or three wins wouldn’t change everything and that is pretty unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 31, 2021 Moderator Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, vreitti said: We can all see what's happening, or more importantly what's not happening. In general, football clubs are far too eager to pull the trigger. All good managers go through rough patches. This is Smiths first season where it's reasonable to expect more consistent performances and results. So far it's been below par, but not by much, all things considered, and we we're still only a quarter into the season. I don’t agree, it is rotten. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, useless said: Smith's replacement if there is to be one will be someone who's data focused or used to working in a set up where there's a big focus on data analysis, recent appointmens like Lange, Leth, McPhee, Danks, and now Trivedi, all have some sort of background in data analysis, and there's probably a good chance that so will any new coach that we might appoint. That's why I made the interesting suggestion of Ralf Rangnick, as presumably he would have been very into that whilst working with 'Red Bull'. Will have to see how we get on against Southampton, after the game has passed. I've said elsewhere I'm wondering if there are too many fingers in the pie here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Every club has that many people and probably sometimes more, it's not like the olden days when the manager was in charge and control of everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I'm desperate for Smith to turn this around but I hear more alarm bells every week. We start games poorly. No excuse for that as it suggests poor prep. We ship too many goals. We look disconnected. The best youth are not being brought through. Momentum is dead. We've spent a lot of money and get outplayed by teams that have spent a fraction of it too often. I'm concerned and depressed about the situation and not sure what's best to do next. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: I don’t agree, it is rotten. Fair enough. Do you care to explain your view in more detail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I've watched both his interviews with Sky and AVFC and he says the same things: "We aren't starting games with enough energy". It's worrying as it says to me the players aren't onboard or reacting to him the coaching team and still they make individual errors. I think he's done unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) For those interested, this is the Premier League 2021 Calendar Year table, so from 1st Jan 2021 to today, regardless of season, just a years worth of performance, compared. for info, you can see total games played and total points, but i also added the average points per game in 2021, and ranked according to that average. Effectively, our 2021 form over the 34 PL games we have played, would put us on a season totalling roughly 41/42 points. Edited October 31, 2021 by MaVilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Biggest problem for me is that we don't seem to have a plan, we are chopping and changing and dont seem to know how to best use our players, and they start looking frustrated by it. 5-3-2 failed and now we don't really know what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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