Made In Aston Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 15 hours ago, briny_ear said: Um, I think that may be a just bit over optimistic on his value. Is he really significantly worse than Grealish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted November 16, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted November 16, 2018 Out of the Scotland squad and a doubt for next weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 17 hours ago, Made In Aston said: Is he really significantly worse than Grealish? Value in the transfer market isn’t based on fans’ assessment of a player’s ability. It’s about reputation and the scouting community’s view of potential future development and increase in value. He had all his talent when he joined us but we got him for £3m or whatever because he didn’t have those other aspects. I doubt he has increased his value tenfold in the few matches he’s played for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merson08 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, briny_ear said: Value in the transfer market isn’t based on fans’ assessment of a player’s ability. It’s about reputation and the scouting community’s view of potential future development and increase in value. He had all his talent when he joined us but we got him for £3m or whatever because he didn’t have those other aspects. I doubt he has increased his value tenfold in the few matches he’s played for us. It all really depends on how much the other team need him. Krzysztof Piatek was purchased for 3 million and is being linked with January moves for 30 million cause of his goal scoring record for Genoa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Any update on the extent of McGinn’s injury? Would be absolutely gutting to lose him for the next couple/few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 On 16/11/2018 at 09:44, Merson08 said: It all really depends on how much the other team need him. Krzysztof Piatek was purchased for 3 million and is being linked with January moves for 30 million cause of his goal scoring record for Genoa. Yes, that’s true. It’s a reminder that a player’s value is really determined by how much someone is prepared to pay. If someone wants to pay £30m for McGinn, that’s what he’s worth. Not that I have noticed anyone offering that. Piatek also shows that a player can rapidly improve their market value if they perform extraordinarily well. He’s scored what, about a goal a game so far, which is incredible for Italian football. Again, I’m not so sure McGinn has had quite the same impact, even though we love him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) Not sure if posted?... great video Edited November 18, 2018 by Villan4Life 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 9 hours ago, briny_ear said: Yes, that’s true. It’s a reminder that a player’s value is really determined by how much someone is prepared to pay. If someone wants to pay £30m for McGinn, that’s what he’s worth. Not that I have noticed anyone offering that. Piatek also shows that a player can rapidly improve their market value if they perform extraordinarily well. He’s scored what, about a goal a game so far, which is incredible for Italian football. Again, I’m not so sure McGinn has had quite the same impact, even though we love him. I reckon Premier League clubs would be prepared to spend 10-15 million for him. I’d be surprised if there weren’t suitors if we don’t get promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 35 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I reckon Premier League clubs would be prepared to spend 10-15 million for him. I’d be surprised if there weren’t suitors if we don’t get promoted. Agreed, but i can't see a top 6 club wanting him yet. That said, if we can keep hold of Grealish from Spurs then we can keep hold of Mcginn. With our apparent awful FFP situation they immediately rejected 25million for Jack. Our owners are loaded, so the money offered won't even be a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westholmevillan Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 45 minutes ago, Villan4Life said: Not sure if posted? Sorry if it has be great video Thanks for that. It's a great video! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 4-0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouchmefoot Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Let's hope his sources are wrong (6:30): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Ouchmefoot said: Let's hope his sources are wrong (6:30): Dan Bardell is well connected at the club and probably as good a source you can get re: Media, so that's not good at all. Typical, performance of our season, performances of the season from key players, then a stupid international break and they get injured. Always us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Dan Bardell is well connected at the club and probably as good a source you can get re: Media, so that's not good at all. Typical, performance of our season, performances of the season from key players, then a stupid international break and they get injured. Always us! I can't watch, what does he say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted November 21, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Dick said: I can't watch, what does he say? It's as you would imagine from the comment, he's got no chance of playing. Tbh I'd take that if Chester can get back; we do have decent options in the centre, and a break may not be the worst thing for a player like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dick said: I can't watch, what does he say? Not too much just that McGinn is unlikely to make Sunday. All we need now is for Jack to slip on some gel in his bathroom. They said Chester will probably make it though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted November 21, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2018 Bjarnasson in for McGinn then? Wouldn't be the worst assuming Chester is fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Not like we're short of midfielders is it. Sure he'll be missed but if anything he should have been a bigger miss for Scotland than us but they have been better without him in the team in the 2 games this week than in the past few games he has played so hopefully we will manage the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: Not like we're short of midfielders is it. Sure he'll be missed but if anything he should have been a bigger miss for Scotland than us but they have been better without him in the team in the 2 games this week than in the past few games he has played so hopefully we will manage the same. While this is true, we don't have ANY midfielder who works as hard as McGinn or is as dynamic, which will be needed ever so much on Sunday. He is certainly a big miss. Chance for someone else to step up and make a bold claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 He likes a challenge so would have loved the Derby. On the other hand he would have been guaranteed a yellow card or worse. Big miss but hopefully we still have enough to beat them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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