Jareth Posted June 5, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, hippo said: What ? let say villa is valued at £40m - so a 51% stake costs a tad over £20m - we 17,000 season ticket holders - how much would each have to chip to buy a controlling interest ? - Hell I can't even afford a new pair of pants ? Only about £1200 each - I'd give that consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 Now we are getting to the bottom of it http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5809685/Aston-Villa-turmoil-failure-pay-tax-bill-5m.html "In an alternative version of events it has been claimed Wyness attempting to bring together a consortium to buy the club without Xia’s prior knowledge. The Chinese businessman then found out and acted." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoughboroughLion Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Is all very odd - the club must have know about this for a while. In my mind, that worries me and comforts me in equal potions. We have an accounting function - I’m sure full of very experienced people - in place that are responsible for this. We probably also get tax advice and computation support from the Big 4, so this should be news to no one who is in charge. We could be disputing the charge? We could be taking advice through an intermediary and this is their f up? Sources when Xia bought us argued deep pockets. FFP doesn’t restrict this kind of investment, so should Xia be in a position to sort this out, it should be fine. If he can’t, or won’t, that’s when we have a big problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Sounds like Xia has put his trust in men with “football knowledge” and they’re **** him over while he’s in China. **** sake. This is going to get ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Genie said: Any the running costs? Investing in the squad and facilities? Yup, that's a different question. It's unlikely such an ownership model would result in a cash rich club buying its way to success. But, I think it could be done sustainably. I would think of something like $100 per share 10x shares = 1 vote No more than 10 votes per any individual. No limit on number of shares the individual could own. So shares and the resulting capitol would only be to decide on ownership/governance, running the club and the associated capitol/ongoing costs would take a much more serious analysis. Edited June 5, 2018 by villakram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowlersrs Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Genie said: Any the running costs? Investing in the squad and facilities? You follow the German model and look for investors for the remaining percentage.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 5, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, hippo said: Now we are getting to the bottom of it http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5809685/Aston-Villa-turmoil-failure-pay-tax-bill-5m.html "In an alternative version of events it has been claimed Wyness attempting to bring together a consortium to buy the club without Xia’s prior knowledge. The Chinese businessman then found out and acted." I bet Simon Jordan had a hand in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, VERB27 said: Is all very odd - the club must have know about this for a while. In my mind, that worries me and comforts me in equal potions. We have an accounting function - I’m sure full of very experienced people - in place that are responsible for this. We probably also get tax advice and computation support from the Big 4, so this should be news to no one who is in charge. We could be disputing the charge? We could be taking advice through an intermediary and this is their f up? Sources when Xia bought us argued deep pockets. FFP doesn’t restrict this kind of investment, so should Xia be in a position to sort this out, it should be fine. If he can’t, or won’t, that’s when we have a big problem. I think you might be missing the point. IMO the assumption is that Xia will not or can not get the money out of china. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Wyness plunging the knife, my word. Yet another scumbag desecrating the good name of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Main issue is obvious. Will Hutton not be getting a new deal now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 1 minute ago, maqroll said: Wyness plunging the knife, my word. Yet another scumbag desecrating the good name of the club. I don't see it like that. He realised Dr T was full of shite and tried to find new owners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowlersrs Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Just now, Zatman said: Main issue is obvious. Will Hutton not be getting a new deal now? Might get a player managers contract at this rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 5, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, maqroll said: Wyness plunging the knife, my word. Yet another scumbag desecrating the good name of the club. If true (and we do not know for certain) - well it kinda puts Tony in a good light. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 Just now, Zatman said: Main issue is obvious. Will Hutton not be getting a new deal now? More worrying (and I am serious) will the pitch get re laid ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) There are still ( and understandably)too many unanswered questions. It seems to me, we can't seem to find an owner, who can trust a CEO to run the place. HDE for all his sins, had his hand on the pulse. Edited June 5, 2018 by TRO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Maybe Bobby Axelrod will make a bid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Bah I’m giving it 48 hours, far too many “stories” at present. I’ll support us in the conference if I must, as long as we don’t play Bruce type football and don’t have to start again as AFC Aston Villa I don’t care the lows just make the highs sweeter (if we ever get any again lol) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted June 5, 2018 Moderator Share Posted June 5, 2018 I think you're right on giving it 48 hours. If the tax bill gets paid then I think we can assume that the Villapocalypse isn't happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, hippo said: I don't see it like that. He realised Dr T was full of shite and tried to find new owners. You surprise me. I thought you like the Dr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, hippo said: I don't see it like that. He realised Dr T was full of shite and tried to find new owners. That seems to be what's happened going by the current pieces in the puzzle. We're skint, he tried to find investors, Xia didn't like it. That might seem like some kind of betrayal or mutiny, but when it seems we can't pay the tax bill on time, maybe Wyness is actually looking out for the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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