Stevo985 Posted May 1, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, flashingqwerty said: He always seems to have a big mistake in him - and i am not sure we can risk that in the playoffs. You mean apart form all the games where he hasn't made a big mistake? 9 hours ago, flashingqwerty said: He has had far more woeful games than good for us This just isn't true, is it? Edited May 1, 2018 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I watch him and think he is very willing but his body isnt Not been as bad as people think with suggestions of deliberate own goal attempts in games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: He really hasn’t. He’s had a couple of bad games, yes, but has been an integral part of a winning side. Agree, in fact in some of our recent games I’d say he’s been one of our stand out performers. I was stood next to a guy on a Saturday who was ecstatic at Hutton coming on, yet spent the entire game laying into Whelan .......his comments about each bore no relation to what was happening on the pitch. For me it sometimes reads like that on here, it’s as if people don’t even watch the games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 1, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 hours ago, terrytini said: Agree, in fact in some of our recent games I’d say he’s been one of our stand out performers. I was stood next to a guy on a Saturday who was ecstatic at Hutton coming on, yet spent the entire game laying into Whelan .......his comments about each bore no relation to what was happening on the pitch. For me it sometimes reads like that on here, it’s as if people don’t even watch the games. Yep. People's opinions of player matter far more sometimes, but we're probably all guilty of it to certain degrees. On Saturday, Whelan played a nice ball into Grealish's feet. Grealish turned and tried to take it round a player and got tackled. Bloke in front of me went mental at whelan for a bad pass. It was ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Have to say when Whelan was replaced by Onomah, and Uncle Albert by Kodjia, l thought we looked far more dangerous. More forward impetus, less sideways and safe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted May 1, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 1, 2018 4 hours ago, terrytini said: Agree, in fact in some of our recent games I’d say he’s been one of our stand out performers. I was stood next to a guy on a Saturday who was ecstatic at Hutton coming on, yet spent the entire game laying into Whelan .......his comments about each bore no relation to what was happening on the pitch. For me it sometimes reads like that on here, it’s as if people don’t even watch the games. What a random correlation, why would a persons opinion on 2 different players have anything to do with each other? TBH I would agree with the guys evaluation. Great to see Hutton back and Whelan for me was playing on his heels too much in the first half. Dont get the praise for him tbh, he is decent enough in the enforcer role but hes all round the weakest of the 3 as he offers so little other than his primary role. He has no chance if someone has a run on him or if he has to react to a quick shift in emphasis in attack. Im not a hater at all, really happy we signed him as i think he has performed a vital role this season, and still think he plays well in the bigger games (although id prefer Jedi if the choice is to be made) Back to Saturdays game I did think he improved greatly in the 2nd half but that had a lot to do with the fact that Derby had given up attacking in numbers. It really showed when Onomah came on and help force the equaliser. In general his years are catching up with him, and giving him too many weaknesses for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, Nigel said: What a random correlation, why would a persons opinion on 2 different players have anything to do with each other? TBH I would agree with the guys evaluation. Great to see Hutton back and Whelan for me was playing on his heels too much in the first half. Dont get the praise for him tbh, he is decent enough in the enforcer role but hes all round the weakest of the 3 as he offers so little other than his primary role. He has no chance if someone has a run on him or if he has to react to a quick shift in emphasis in attack. Im not a hater at all, really happy we signed him as i think he has performed a vital role this season, and still think he plays well in the bigger games (although id prefer Jedi if the choice is to be made) Back to Saturdays game I did think he improved greatly in the 2nd half but that had a lot to do with the fact that Derby had given up attacking in numbers. It really showed when Onomah came on and help force the equaliser. In general his years are catching up with him, and giving him too many weaknesses for me. Because he treated one decent player as if he was the Messiah, and the other decent player as if he was a disgrace. Whether you think one is better than the other or not, the hugely different treatment afforded quite similar players revealed a pre existing prejudice, which is what I was getting at. ...and Which he confirmed at Half Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 hour ago, meregreen said: Have to say when Whelan was replaced by Onomah, and Uncle Albert by Kodjia, l thought we looked far more dangerous. More forward impetus, less sideways and safe. I agree. But that doesn’t mean Whelan was poor, just different. FWIW if we could get Josh playing like that all the time I think he’d get the starting spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted May 1, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, terrytini said: Because he treated one decent player as if he was the Messiah, and the other decent player as if he was a disgrace. Whether you think one is better than the other or not, the hugely different treatment afforded quite similar players revealed a pre existing prejudice, which is what I was getting at. ...and Which he confirmed at Half Time. Fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) Was like Jonny Sexton near the end of the game. Kept kicking the ball as far away from the pitch as possible Edited May 15, 2018 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 It was excellent game management. Used all his experience at the end there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Enjoyed the welly to the corner with almost last kick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Zatman said: Was like Jonny Sexton near the end of the game. Kept kicking the ball as far away from the pitch as possible Loved how he booted it into the stands even when the ball was well over a line for a goal kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Got a fine goal last night. Friendly or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Zatman said: Got a fine goal last night. Friendly or not For one of your posts Zatman, that is quite friendly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 There was quite a spring in his step on that goal. We did him no favours throughout the early parts of last season playing him to death. I thought he looked ruined and gone, which maybe wasn't the case... and that reputation has stuck with him unfortunately. Will need to be managed a lot better this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 He really is a has been. Green comes on and has more impact in 5 minutes than this guy has all game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 He was chasing shadows in the 2nd half, so slow, need bjarnsson in place of him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, meregreen said: He really is a has been. Green comes on and has more impact in 5 minutes than this guy has all game. Such an odd comparison, comparing a flying winger to a dm... I questioned his selection as thought BB would add more energy, but for me Whelan was one of our better players. Broke down their attacks and showed calmness on the call when needed. Yes tires towards the end and certainly can’t play the full season but is a vital cog in our squad and we’ll win more with him than without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I actually thought he did okay, covered a lot of ground in the first half. Glenn whelan is never going to do the stuff you remember but he contributes nonetheless 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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