terrytini Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 10 hours ago, briny_ear said: If there are people on the list like Hutton who say they aren't going anywhere, is that a case of chopstick? And if we need to get rid quickly,chop-chop ? And are they in the chop window ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Id get rid of hutton, gil cissokho, gardner and elphick No one is taking Richards and gabby unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Id get rid of hutton, gil cissokho, gardner and elphick No one is taking Richards and gabby unfortunately Agree on all those but would add amavi and bacuna to the list . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 22 minutes ago, Eastie said: Agree on all those but would add amavi and bacuna to the list . I like amavi but i think he is off. Bacuna I think is a good squad player to have. i have my reservations over Thor too, but will give him until the winter to prove himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I think of where we are currently at.. we could possibly be looking at seeing the exit of the following. Golloini (2nd season on loan) Steer or Bunn. (We only need one 2nd/3rd choice keeper) Elphick (Not good enough.. Sty rumoured to be interested.) Amavi (Deemed surplus) Cissoko (Another loan if nothing perminant arises?) Hutton/Richards (One or Both for the reason they are just hanging around collecting a wage and offer no real purpose.) Sanchez (Surplus) Veretout (Another of the French influx that never really happened for him here.) Gil (Unsettled and surplus it seems) {Personally I would have loved to have seen a full season of him playing in the middle between Grealish & Traore} Lyden ( Loaned out or sold) Bacuna or Tshbola (No need for both of them and Albert Adomah already competition. Agbonlahor / McCormack (No need for either or both, depending on what happens with Hepburn-Murphy too) So altogether potentially 12/14 players could have left before we kick a ball come August. Still leaves us a squad of 19/20 leaving room for a few new players to arrive and improve areas where really needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 On 06/07/2017 at 19:18, theboyangel said: All for the chop as not good enough or don't want to be here. bunn richards elphick amavi bacuna gardner veretout gil gabby elmohamady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 hour ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Golloini (2nd season on loan) I love a thick Brummie accent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 hour ago, rjw63 said: It was a joke! Not keen on us potentially signing him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VILLAMARV Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Sooo. Massive question mark over Johnstone but if he's here then he's here. Sarkic can warm a bench, Steer could do with some game time. I'd loan him out with a recall option if possible and BUNN is so surplus to requirements he's almost not worth mentioning. Defensively it should go without saying I don't ever want to see Richards playing for us again. I thought we were finally shot of Hutton, but if RDL needs a bit of time I can accept him being back up to Bree and it puts no pressure on RDL to rush back so maybe my prejudices cloud me from seeing some good management there? Either way, Bree/Chester/Terry/Taylor is what I want to see. Baker will be adequate cover. I'd honestly rather see Suliman get some games over Elphick who can leave but he should really be 5th choice imo. Samba has looked both ok and immobile, wouldn't be against offering a short term deal IF we managed to move RICHARDS and ELPHICK and I suspect their wages might be the stumbling block there. Samba is not going to take the club forward I know but maybe with 5 mins to go holding onto a 1 goal lead he wouldn't be a bad option to throw on? CISSOKHO needs to go. And if anyone actually takes Amavi then so be it. Wouldn't be against him staying as LB cover if it doesn't come off. If he leaves we'll need to replace him. I also think we are ok for Bacuna's. It's hard to put him in a defence or midfield paragraph if you're me, but we don't need any BACUNA's So if VERETOUT is off no big loss, except financially of course. As for TSHIBOLA it looks to me like Bruce REALLY doesn't like him but like Veretout it would be no great loss. Maybe Lyden will come good, but I'd like to see some other competition for Jedinak. Whelan is pretty underwhelming but it's in the right position for me. Likewise with Elmohamady but we absolutely need a right winger for sure. GARDNER has been "maybe coming good this year" for about 7 years now, it's time to stop this madness. Green/Grealish as options down the left and Birkir as the utility guy would be a decent blend for me. Up front I am resigned to Gabby being here, and while again my personal prejudices might cloud my judgement with him but It's hard to argue he didn't have an effect on games last season. He might only be good for mindless runs and some physicality these days but none of the others can match him there and it shows. Look, if someone actually wants Gabby and he wants to go sell, sell, sell! but I'm not as disgruntled as last year is what I'm getting at. Kodjia is obviously our only hope. Hogan is looking like a bad buy, but it's also amazing what a couple of goals can do to a strikers form and confidence. I have more concerns over McCORMACK to be fair and if we can get money for him and shift his wages I'd jump at it personally. RHM and Davis look promising anyway so 4th or 5th choice strikers being nippers from the academy isn't so bad. As others have said, some sort of target man wouldn't be a bad thing but look what happened with Gestede when we did that. I'd rather RHM or Davis got game time over someone like him or Kozak. Loaning a striker is always an option too. That Abraham lad didn't do so bad at Bristol City last year did he. Just saying. But I'm convincing myself more and more we don't need McCormack. So for me OUT - BUNN, RICHARDS, CISSOKHO, BACUNA, VERETOUT, GARDNER, TSHIBOLA, McCORMACK LOAN OUT - Steer, Lyden REPLACE IF THEY GO - AMAVI, ELPHICK IN - Right Midfielder + Defensive Midfielder (and then a striker, maybe on loan, if we get shot of McCormack.....or Gabby for that matter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rodders0223 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) I wouldn't be adverse to any of January's signings being shown the door tbfh. EDIT : With the exception of Neil Taylor. Edited July 19, 2017 by rodders0223 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Chop Bruce and his coaching team ...... that is all we need ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Paul33 said: Chop Bruce and his coaching team ...... that is all we need ! like ran out of likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted July 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 19, 2017 On 06/07/2017 at 17:32, briny_ear said: Chop Crop would sound snappier. I'd prefer Chopping List. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 (edited) On 11/07/2017 at 12:34, AvfcRigo82 said: I think of where we are currently at.. we could possibly be looking at seeing the exit of the following. Golloini (2nd season on loan) Steer or Bunn. (Maybe both now 2nd/3rd choice keeper) Elphick (Awaiting departure.) Amavi (Awaiting departure) Cissoko (Another loan if nothing perminant arises?) Hutton/Richards (One or Both for the reason they are just hanging around collecting a wage and offer no real purpose.) Sanchez (Surplus) Veretout (Awaiting departure) Gil (Awaiting departure) Lyden (remains to be seen but could stay) Bacuna or Tshbola (No need for both of them and Albert Adomah already competition. Agbonlahor / McCormack (No need for either or both, depending on what happens with Hepburn-Murphy too) So altogether potentially 12/14 players could have left before we kick a ball come August. Still leaves us a squad of 19/20 leaving room for a few new players to arrive and improve areas where really needed. So we now have a total of 35 players inc the additions of Eldo, Samba & Whelan. Dr. Xia and SB have agreed to get the squad to 20 leaving room for 4/5 youth. Would this be.. Green, Hepburn-Murphy, Gardner, Davis, Lyden.? Now based on no more players coming in, I think the above 10 highlighted are more or less days numbered? Just a matter of when and not if!. Edited July 21, 2017 by AvfcRigo82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2017 Not that big a deal - there are 8 players out of contract at the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2017 Prays Bacuna gets chopped Preferably in half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 1 GK Sam Johnstone (on loan from Manchester United) 2 DF Nathan Baker 3 DF Neil Taylor 4 DF Micah Richards 5 MF Henri Lansbury 6 DF Tommy Elphick 7 MF Leandro Bacuna 8 MF Aaron Tshibola 9 FW Scott Hogan 11 FW Gabriel Agbonlahor 12 DF James Chester 13 GK Jed Steer 14 MF Conor Hourihane 16 DF James Bree 17 MF Jordan Veretout 19 MF André Green 20 MF Birkir Bjarnason 21 DF Alan Hutton No. Position Player 22 MF Gary Gardner 23 DF Jordan Amavi 25 MF Mile Jedinak 26 DF John Terry (captain) 27 DF Ritchie De Laet 28 DF Aly Cissokho 29 FW Rushian Hepburn-Murphy 31 GK Mark Bunn 35 MF Corey Blackett-Taylor 37 MF Albert Adomah 38 MF Jordan Lyden 39 FW Keinan Davis 40 MF Jack Grealish 44 FW Ross McCormack 46 DF Kevin Toner — DF Christopher Samba — FW Jonathan Kodjia — DF Ahmed Elmohamady — MF Glenn Whelan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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