Guest av1 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I think he is a much better player than what he has delivered so far at VP, but I'm beginning to acknowledge that we aren't going to see the best of him under Steve Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 4, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 4, 2017 48 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Oh I don't think Hogan was forced on him. I'm 100% sure Bruce signed off on him and agreed to it. But I think on the whole Bruce is part of a team that will sign players. He was a complete panic signing and IMO that's why it's been a failure, I don't think Bruce should or could change it for hogan and continue to get the points we have. I'd much prefer Davis continues his development and our attacks built around him than try to force such an average limited player into the team. He was very much a Bruce signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 49 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Oh I don't think Hogan was forced on him. I'm 100% sure Bruce signed off on him and agreed to it. But I think on the whole Bruce is part of a team that will sign players. He was a complete panic signing and IMO that's why it's been a failure, I don't think Bruce should or could change it for hogan and continue to get the points we have. I'd much prefer Davis continues his development and our attacks built around him than try to force such an average limited player into the team. I think everyone would prefer to see Davis ahead of Hogan - I just don’t think Bruce has ever given him the opportunity to show what he can do - or not do for that matter- but I don’t think it matters now - I feel strongly he’ll return to Brentford in a cut price deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 FWIW, yes, Bruce did say in the media hehad watched him for a long time himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) I don't know what he is doing at BMH to perfect his game.....but Leo Bonatini was heard saying he is working on his game to improve.....well if he feels he has to, blimey. Scott has to work overtime to to improve his skill set, if he has any desire to play for us.....his skills set is too narrow. He looks busy when he comes on and has that effervescence of Dean Saunders.....but he has to do much more to hurt the opposition. as Gary Player the golfer once said " The harder I work, the luckier I get" over to you Scott. Edited November 4, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: He was very much a Bruce signing. I didn't get the notion too many fans were disappointed. I was pleased when we signed him.....I still think there is something in there, but unfortunately for us his confidence must be very low. For me....Its of little value looking back.....He needs to work harder in training to find a way to fit in to our side. If he is already doing that, then he won't make it with us, sadly. However,I think its doable....I also think him playing with O'Hare with his little threaded balls would help Scott. also, I am equally not suggesting disrupting a winning team. Tricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 54 minutes ago, Dave J said: I think everyone would prefer to see Davis ahead of Hogan - I just don’t think Bruce has ever given him the opportunity to show what he can do - or not do for that matter- but I don’t think it matters now - I feel strongly he’ll return to Brentford in a cut price deal He did start our first 3 games of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 4, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 4, 2017 43 minutes ago, TRO said: I didn't get the notion too many fans were disappointed. I was pleased when we signed him.....I still think there is something in there, but unfortunately for us his confidence must be very low. For me....Its of little value looking back.....He needs to work harder in training to find a way to fit in to our side. If he is already doing that, then he won't make it with us, sadly. However,I think its doable....I also think him playing with O'Hare with his little threaded balls would help Scott. also, I am equally not suggesting disrupting a winning team. Tricky. I wasn’t suggesting they were, I personally think he is a good player. But I said after his second game for us that it wouldn’t work for him under Bruce and it won’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Got his chance. Playing upfront with the big man. Let's hope he starts paying off that fee. While I really don't rate him I'd love nothing more to be proven wrong starting today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted November 4, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 4, 2017 Well I guess this is it for him. Do or die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Go on Scotty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 This is where all the “can’t see why we aren't playing a £12m striker” chickens come home to roost. And the “why doesn't he play 442” Gonna be an interesting afternoon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Just terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Absolute waste of time. Can he improve second half? I'll be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I have to say, the whole 'he'll thrive playing with a big man like Davis' hypothesis is not looking very convincing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I didn't think he should have started and it seems that way. The guy doesn't even look like a footballer at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 4, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 4, 2017 Awful. And I’m annoyed snodgrass has been hooked to keep this guy on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 shouldn't be on the pitch , confidence is shot and this team aren't going to do anything to improve it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 minute ago, tonyh29 said: shouldn't be on the pitch , confidence is shot and this team aren't going to do anything to improve it Doesn't he have a responsibility to try and improve it? Can't always be on the team. He does nothing to get himself in the game. Stats show once again has the least amount of touches of players on the pitch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted November 4, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 4, 2017 Get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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