Michael118 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: One of them would fit in, and it aint Amavi. I agree Amavi POSSIBLY has the potential to be better than Taylor. But he's a long long way off realising it. Based on current ability, Neil Taylor is a far better player. Fair enough. I completely disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Solid player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Michael118 said: Fair enough. I completely disagree. At this moment in time, all Amavi has over Taylor is ball skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 52 minutes ago, Dick said: At this moment in time, all Amavi has over Taylor is ball skills. Amavi is a much better player overall. More skillful, far better offensively, a better cross and is more dynamic and creative. Taylor might be slightly more solid defensively but I think Amavi is better in that area than people give him credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I saw amavi vs monaco few weeks back. Monaco a top team but he was defensively so bad that you can tell he wont make for a top team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post briny_ear Posted September 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2017 Amavi makes me nervous. Taylor doesn't. End of story as far as I'm concerned. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: I saw amavi vs monaco few weeks back. Monaco a top team but he was defensively so bad that you can tell he wont make for a top team I didn't see the game but he was named man of the match in his last game which was the first time he's played a full 90 mins this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) Who Scored have got 'Defensive Contribution' listed as a strength for him along with Tackling, Aerial Duels, Dribbling and Ball Interception. No weaknesses. Taylor's only strength is Blocking the Ball. Tackling and Aerial Duels listed as weaknesses. Edited September 18, 2017 by Michael118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Amavi was below average in virtually every game he played for us last season. Defensively he was awful and despite his much vaunted 'skills' on the ball he offered nothing going forward, his crossing is poor, especially when under pressure. Taylor is far more solid defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Michael118 said: Who Scored have got 'Defensive Contribution' listed as a strength for him along with Tackling, Aerial Duels, Dribbling and Ball Interception. No weaknesses. Taylor's only strength is Blocking the Ball. Tackling and Aerial Duels listed as weaknesses. So really, all you need as evidence to believe or form an opinion, is to have it written down on glossy paper in an annual? Whilst I actually think Amavi will turn into a very decent player, what you just posted is absolutely pointless and almost mock-worthy. It's obvious to me that for us, Taylor has performed better than Amavi did, particularly last season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, lapal_fan said: So really, all you need as evidence to believe or form an opinion, is to have it written down on glossy paper in an annual? Whilst I actually think Amavi will turn into a very decent player, what you just posted is absolutely pointless and almost mock-worthy. It's obvious to me that for us, Taylor has performed better than Amavi did, particularly last season. How is it pointless and mock-worthy? Amavi's biggest criticism on here was that he was frail defensively yet they've listed it as one of his strengths. I've also read on here that he's poor in the air which they've also listed as one of his strengths. On the other hand I keep hearing how amazing Taylor is defensively and that he's better in the air than Amavi but neither Defensive Contributions nor Aerial Duels are listed as a strength of his but they are both listed for Amavi. In fact, Aerial Duels are listed as one of Taylor's weaknesses. I don't normally read too much into stats but I think those are more right than it would seem and highlights how unfair people have been on Amavi. Amavi's best was a lot better than anything Taylor has produced for us so far. Edited September 18, 2017 by Michael118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 18, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2017 4 hours ago, Michael118 said: Who Scored have got 'Defensive Contribution' listed as a strength for him along with Tackling, Aerial Duels, Dribbling and Ball Interception. No weaknesses. Taylor's only strength is Blocking the Ball. Tackling and Aerial Duels listed as weaknesses. Wow. Well I'm convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted September 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2017 Amavi isn't defensively weak?? He's as poor a defender as I've ever seen. Horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 22 hours ago, Michael118 said: Amavi is a much better player overall. More skillful, far better offensively, a better cross and is more dynamic and creative. Taylor might be slightly more solid defensively but I think Amavi is better in that area than people give him credit for. I believe we bought Taylor to replace a poor defender not a winger. I always thought Amavi would be a better left midfielder than defender and your points seem to agree with my view point. I would of kept him and played him ahead of Taylor as I believe it would have given us more balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, villianusa said: I believe we bought Taylor to replace a poor defender not a winger. I always thought Amavi would be a better left midfielder than defender and your points seem to agree with my view point. I would of kept him and played him ahead of Taylor as I believe it would have given us more balance. Amavi had no attributes to play left wing though, he couldn't cross and he couldn't score goals and he didn't run in behind. That would be the weakest left side offensively going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clip on mullet Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 27 minutes ago, villianusa said: I believe we bought Taylor to replace a poor defender not a winger. I always thought Amavi would be a better left midfielder than defender and your points seem to agree with my view point. I would of kept him and played him ahead of Taylor as I believe it would have given us more balance. I never considered Amavi as a winger or a left mid. No consistency to his crossing and can't finish for toffee. I do wish we had kept him though. Better lb than Taylor for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Taylor is a limited player who is solid defensively playing for a manager who is limited and defensive. I believe a different attack minded manager would have got better performances out of amavi than Bruce ever managed as the team would geared towards his attributes to get the best out of him. Oh well we will never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Amavi had no attributes to play left wing though, he couldn't cross and he couldn't score goals and he didn't run in behind. That would be the weakest left side offensively going. I disagree, but that's what forums are all about. Edited September 19, 2017 by villianusa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adbo9 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I think I've just been sick in my mouth reading about whoscored.com. !! If this is what the modern game and fan use to rate players rather than their own eyes then it is no wonder the game is shit and steadily getting worse as the seasons pass.......... as for Amavi.... no website will convince me he is a player..... he was weak as bellyache shit and had fook all to his game..... poor poor player - taylor is far better 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, Adbo9 said: as for Amavi.... no website will convince me he is a player..... he was weak as bellyache shit and had fook all to his game..... poor poor player - taylor is far better But.. but.. whoscored,com says Amavi is better therefore that is FACT. Don't argue with the made up statistics. 107% of people who do that are always wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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