Vive_La_Villa Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, bobzy said: People keep citing this money thing - isn’t he on a rolling contract? I believe so. Does they mean he would get 1 years compensation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 The elephant in the room that nobody on this forum is addressing is that if we sack the manager while we have no CEO or DOF, the manager hunt will be led by two people who have owned a football club for less than a week. d they even know the names of any football managers? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Just now, HanoiVillan said: The elephant in the room that nobody on this forum is addressing is that if we sack the manager while we have no CEO or DOF, the manager hunt will be led by two people who have owned a football club for less than a week. d they even know the names of any football managers? And the season soon about to start. I just can't see Bruce being replaced unless they have someone already lined up to come in straight away. Even then it is an act of self harm when the last guy was one win away from promotion. For anybody new to this league, they will be all about the stats and Bruce will make a very good case to be retained. Next summer, if we don't go up, and FFP sorted and some room to wriggle it may be a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 22, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: The elephant in the room that nobody on this forum is addressing is that if we sack the manager while we have no CEO or DOF, the manager hunt will be led by two people who have owned a football club for less than a week. d they even know the names of any football managers? Yeah that's a good point. I can't see Bruce going now. There's going be a big transition at the club now with new board staff coming in etc, would probably be too much change to replace the manager too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheStagMan Posted July 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2018 9 hours ago, Zatman said: Im no Bruce fan but main reason to keep him is that he is the first manager in a long time to unite the dressing room It's almost like no other manager in the world is capable of doing this. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 minute ago, TheStagMan said: It's almost like no other manager in the world is capable of doing this. Who was the last Villa manager to do it? Probably McLeish that was 7 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Who was the last Villa manager to do it? Probably McLeish that was 7 years ago More to do with the shit state of the club than the manager(s) in question. All of the managers we have had have been decent elsewhere, in the last seven years its only after the Xia takeover and the clear out of the deadwood (that we seem to be able to obtain a plentiful supply of) did things start to come together. If the only reason for keeping Bruce is that "he unites the dressing room" then lord help us. It certainly isn't the football and it certainly isn't a guarantee of promotion. FWIW I don't recall there being noises about a divided dressing room under De Matteo. I could be wrong and would be interested in any articles that could be provided to prove it was? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: The elephant in the room that nobody on this forum is addressing is that if we sack the manager while we have no CEO or DOF, the manager hunt will be led by two people who have owned a football club for less than a week. d they even know the names of any football managers? One would hope they have people in mind and are already working with those who will be part of the new set up even thou they are as of yet formally employed in those positions. If they just bought the club willy nilly then I agree it would be worrying. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, sne said: One would hope they have people in mind and are already working with those who will be part of the new set up even thou they are as of yet formally employed in those positions. If they just bought the club willy nilly then I agree it would be worrying. Agree. You’d like to think they would also have their people do a lot of research before investing to advise of the current state and if any immediate change of manager was needed and even possible in such short timescales. As far as we know they might even have a whole team of people from CEO to manager already lined up as part of the takeover. Edit: I just pretty much repeated what you said didn’t I? Edited July 22, 2018 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Agree. You’d like to think they would also have their people do a lot of research before investing to advise of the current state and if any immediate change of manager was needed and even possible in such short timescales. As far as we know they might even have a whole team of people from CEO to manager already lined up as part of the takeover. Edit: I just pretty much repeated what you said didn’t I? You did... And I think you are both right. I can't see these two jumping in without their eyes wide open and a plan in play. They don't strike me as the types to potter around in the championship. Hold on tight lads, we could be in for a wild ride here. Edited July 22, 2018 by TheStagMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Considering there is a high chance we will lose some of our better players and that it's unlikely we will be able to spend any money on replacements, then it may be fair to assume we would be very fortunate to be challenging this season. This would be the ideal time to replace Bruce if this is the case. It would be giving the replacement a whole season to start the process of changing our playing style. I guess it all boils down the the expectations of the new owners and fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villabromsgrove Posted July 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2018 Retaining Steve Bruce as manager would be a bit like turning up at the airport for an overseas flight knowing your passport had expired. You'd be wasting your time because that out of date passport isn't going to get you where you want to go. We have a chance to start the rebuilding process right now, so let's get the builders in straight away, and whilst we're at it let's renew that expired passport so that we're ready to travel. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 4 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: The elephant in the room that nobody on this forum is addressing is that if we sack the manager while we have no CEO or DOF, the manager hunt will be led by two people who have owned a football club for less than a week. d they even know the names of any football managers? Not sure if serious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I think they'll be straight with Bruce when they meet him. If they firmly believe they want to go in a different direction, which is their prerogative, they are majority shareholders now..then i think Bruce leaves Tuesday's meeting no longer managing Aston Villa . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Not sure if serious... He has a point very valid one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: He has a point very valid one We are just football fans and We know the names of managers. lol These guys "claim" they are lifelong football fans. Aside from that they have vast sports experience. You think they are just googling Football managers names? I'm pretty certain at the very least they have advisors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: We are just football fans and We know the names of managers. lol These guys "claim" they are lifelong football fans. Aside from that they have vast sports experience. You think they are just googling Football managers names? I'm pretty certain at the very least they have advisors. Lerner said he was a football fan so did Xia. How that work out Neither had a clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 6 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: d they even know the names of any football managers? Thierry Henry is pretty famous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Lerner said he was a football fan so did Xia. How that work out Neither had a clue You mean Keith Wyness and Steve Round didn't have a clue then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: You mean Keith Wyness and Steve Round didn't have a clue then? Well, clearly not, but that's beside the point These guys know their stuff. They will have names in mind. *edit* the Steve Round sacking would have been well into their negotiation period wouldn't it? Wondering they were behind it? Edited July 22, 2018 by TheStagMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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