bannedfromHandV Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 51 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I'm with you. To be fair though also, we were pretty below average that day against Bolton and we still won the game. I'm just saying that I don't think there are any excuses tonight. That said, in football anything can happen. Bolton's form has picked up somewhat as well since playing us so I think we caught them on something of an up-curve, of sorts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: That's one more reply than you said you were going to give Well, I like to provide value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted November 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, bannedfromHandV said: Well, I like to provide value. I've liked this post, as it has a hint of humour. Keep up the good work, its a long road back but you will get there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said: Bolton's form has picked up somewhat as well since playing us so I think we caught them on something of an up-curve, of sorts You can't mention that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 A real test of Bruce to see if he can maintain momentum and get us on a good run of form over Xmas. I expect more inconsistency to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxahunter Posted November 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 hours ago, lexicon said: Just the 23% better pass completion rate to back that up with.... Try to put Whelan in the team from last year and see how he performs and furthermore if you have to compare those two players, you have to look into how many passes is backwards, forwards, long passes etc., You just cant take them in one pile... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted November 21, 2017 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2017 Another good result but... Bruce’s approach to the game will just never ever be for me, I despair at our inability to use or retain the ball under him. I hope he gets up and then we say thanks and move on without him in a different direction this summer. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted November 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2017 So just want to clarify the rules: Because we got 3 points I'm not allowed to have an opinion on the last 25 minutes and the long term effects of us playing this way. If anyone could clear this up I'd greatly appreciate it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Villan_of_oz said: So just want to clarify the rules: Because we got 3 points I'm not allowed to have an opinion on the last 25 minutes and the long term effects of us playing this way. If anyone could clear this up I'd greatly appreciate it. What are you going on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted November 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, sexbelowsound said: What are you going on about? You can't be serious? You know full well if I have my say about the fact that while we got the 3pts, it was not a great performance, I'll get slated from here to tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Depends how you go about it tbf. We obviously didn't play well but we won, so who cares? We don't play that badly every week though, as evidenced by our last match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted November 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Another good result but... Bruce’s approach to the game will just never ever be for me, I despair at our inability to use or retain the ball under him. I hope he gets up and then we say thanks and move on without him in a different direction this summer. Yeah it's hideous, it's not even like playing direct and fast and knowing how to retain possession are mutually exclusive attributes for a football team. All the good teams have always known how to do both, and when. If we could string more than 3 passes together then at 2-0 we coudl just knock it around, draw them out, and THEN go quick and vertical up top and exploit the space. Without the ball we will never be able to manage the game properly. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted November 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, lexicon said: We obviously didn't play well but we won, so who cares? silly me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Villan_of_oz said: silly me Why does it bother you that we played poorly but won? We don't play poorly every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) A dire dire performance. 3 points but meh, dreadful. Edited November 21, 2017 by AshVilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 points is 3 points... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonIsAPlaceOnEarth Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Bruce doesn't win pretty, and definitely not convincingly and probably never will. That said our form is really good in terms of results. Long may this continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: So just want to clarify the rules: Because we got 3 points I'm not allowed to have an opinion on the last 25 minutes and the long term effects of us playing this way. If anyone could clear this up I'd greatly appreciate it. Well, you could say it and as it happens, you just have... which is entirely your right to do... buuuttttt... Talk about stating the obvious. I mean it's been said so many times before and it truly is glaringly obvious, so really, why bother? I mean it's like going for a swim and saying, but what about the waves? We all know this is just how Bruce is. Grit your teeth and bear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted November 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, lexicon said: Why does it bother you that we played poorly but won? We don't play poorly every week. Well as someone who has coached sport nearly my whole adult life I have based my whole ethos on performance ahead of result. You can't control result but you can control performance. Under Bruce we don't control anything, including the ball for 5 passes or more. As a favour to you and everyone else on this thread. I'm going to leave it there and go have my breakfast. I am happy about another 3 points, and I shall enjoy with my eggs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 21, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, lexicon said: Why does it bother you that we played poorly but won? We don't play poorly every week. The fact we won doesn’t bother him or anyone. The way we played and have pretty consistently played under Bruce for more than 12 months does bother him and plenty of others, I don’t think it’s hard to see why. Winning games is great and ultimately it’s the most important thing But it would be nice to enjoy watching us play now and again. But more to the point, the issue tat some of us have with the way we play (not just tonight) is that we don’t think it’s sustainable to win enough games playing like that. Granted the form at the moment suggests otherwise but the concerns remain nonetheless. We shall see over the rest of the season though, long way to go. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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