Zatman Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 best they can hope for is Dinamo and Olympiakos taking points off each other. think 10 points usually gets you through next round and dont think Bayern be through come game 4 so dont think they will relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I hope English clubs continue to fail. Would love the premier league to lose a CL spot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I hope English clubs continue to fail. Would love the premier league to lose a CL spot me too... and Liverpool to finish 4th 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I hope English clubs continue to fail. Would love the premier league to lose a CL spot me too... and Liverpool to finish 4th im sure they would ask special permission again to enter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted September 29, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted September 29, 2015 why would you hope that? it's massively hurt italian football to the benefit of the bundesliga. it wouldn't be good for english football at all, would make it even harder for a club outside the richest to make any type of challenge to the established order by making it even harder to get the big cash bonus required by a couple of years in the CL.I don't like seeing the english clubs struggle, it just underlines how mistake ridden the english game is. not sure why we value fast paced game with loads of errors so much, kills us at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 best they can hope for is Dinamo and Olympiakos taking points off each other. think 10 points usually gets you through next round and dont think Bayern be through come game 4 so dont think they will relaxYes that would mean getting 4 pts off Bayern which is a lot to ask, but if Dinamo and Olympiakas take points off each other then they could qualify with as little as 7 pts. Its going to be tough for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 As soon as CL gets cut to 3 teams (and it will happen soon as these results are pathetic) then English clubs in the Europa will start putting out full teams in europa league and take that competition very serious indeed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 The rules will change before we drop to 3 teams, UEFA are probably the only people in football better at making money than the premier leagueSaw something earlier suggesting the gap in the coefficient has actually got slightly bigger already this year, it'll be towards the latter stages that we'll see it impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 why would you hope that? it's massively hurt italian football to the benefit of the bundesliga. it wouldn't be good for english football at all, would make it even harder for a club outside the richest to make any type of challenge to the established order by making it even harder to get the big cash bonus required by a couple of years in the CL.I don't like seeing the english clubs struggle, it just underlines how mistake ridden the english game is. not sure why we value fast paced game with loads of errors so much, kills us at this level.clubs outside the rich cant make a challenge anyway especially as the CL teams are a cartel plus FFP involved. Also argue Italian teams have got their act together because of it since losing the extra spot they have 3 Europa League semi finalists and Juventus in final last year 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 why would you hope that? it's massively hurt italian football to the benefit of the bundesliga. it wouldn't be good for english football at all, would make it even harder for a club outside the richest to make any type of challenge to the established order by making it even harder to get the big cash bonus required by a couple of years in the CL.I don't like seeing the english clubs struggle, it just underlines how mistake ridden the english game is. not sure why we value fast paced game with loads of errors so much, kills us at this level.I would agree but when you go from having a 1% chance of qualifying in fourth to a 0.01% chance of qualifying in third then I say take the hit and enjoy watching the glory hunting Brummie Reds squirm when they realise that their days of playing in the big cup are effectively over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I do hope we lost the 4th place CL qualifier spot. This league needs a kick up the **** arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 why would you hope that? it's massively hurt italian football to the benefit of the bundesliga. it wouldn't be good for english football at all, would make it even harder for a club outside the richest to make any type of challenge to the established order by making it even harder to get the big cash bonus required by a couple of years in the CL.I don't like seeing the english clubs struggle, it just underlines how mistake ridden the english game is. not sure why we value fast paced game with loads of errors so much, kills us at this level.Well it would serve the premier league right for all those teams in the Europa League who thought the competition was below them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I always root for the foreign teams over English clubs in Europe . Why would I want another English club to get richer ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Yeah I agree with Zatman and The Rev on this one, the less teams in the CL the better. Personally I have always thought it should go back to the 1 team from each league being in it, you know the Champions of that league afterall it is called the Champions league. Whilst they all have the gauranteed cash cow that the CL brings them other teams have less and less chance of winning trophies, so screw them.Personally I have quite enjoyed the lack of CL football on my tv this season, the teams in it epitomise everything that is wrong with modern football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) why would you hope that? it's massively hurt italian football to the benefit of the bundesliga. it wouldn't be good for english football at all, would make it even harder for a club outside the richest to make any type of challenge to the established order by making it even harder to get the big cash bonus required by a couple of years in the CL.I don't like seeing the english clubs struggle, it just underlines how mistake ridden the english game is. not sure why we value fast paced game with loads of errors so much, kills us at this level.The English game (in fact football in general) needs to collapse and be purged of the greed, corruption and the corporate marketeers who have turned it into a crude commodity, Edited September 30, 2015 by Dr_Pangloss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Yeah I agree with Zatman and The Rev on this one, the less teams in the CL the better. Personally I have always thought it should go back to the 1 team from each league being in it, you know the Champions of that league afterall it is called the Champions league. Whilst they all have the gauranteed cash cow that the CL brings them other teams have less and less chance of winning trophies, so screw them.Personally I have quite enjoyed the lack of CL football on my tv this season, the teams in it epitomise everything that is wrong with modern football.Indeed, it is after all called the 'champions league', so why are there more non champions competing in it? The European Cup had it right, it was more about the elite, and not about having 3rd and 4th place teams slugging it out in a highly bloated competition.Similar arguments should be made about the world cup and European championships. FIFA have made them tedious and bloated, all in the name of making money, and nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I don't think you can really go back to just the champions of each country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Nope, the champions league would have to be about football for that decision to be made 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 So how many Alexis going to get this year, 25, 30?Has 5 in two games now.That's why I just don't understand why people keep on banging about them signing another striker especially when their defence is always dropping clangers.If Alexis gets 25-30 and Theo and Giroud get 15 each with the likes of Cazorla and Ozil also chipping in how many goals do you need? Liverpool scored near enough 100 goals in 13/14 and still couldn't win the league. You need to be mentally strong aswell which Arsenal lack on occasions although they were bang on today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Arsenal have everything but the mentality to win the league. There really are no exuses for them this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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