wilko154 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 On 16/08/2018 at 13:54, Dick said: Give him time. Two months from now if he is not scoring goals... I will donate £20 to Villatalk. Now get over to the Jedinak thread and predict that he will become the new Sergio Ramos shortly... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 On 16/08/2018 at 12:13, LondonLax said: He has never been a center forward but we are asking him to play that way because it suits the system. His best time with us was playing on the left as an inside forward. Even during his best spells his goals came from moments if individual creativity, benefiting from the extra time and space you get playing out wide. He's not going to hold up the ball, he's not going to win aerial duels, he's not going to play in small strikers or attaching midfielders. In short we are not playing to his strengths, we are using him because we have no strikers that actually fit the system. because, we haven't got anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Hoping I am rite but I think Kodjia's game is about to go up, the goal will give him a boost for sure. He has had a couple of decent games in my eyes now, time for us to get behind him and give him that support he needs, especially how we are really relying on him as he is our only striker (fit) who can do the job.. The man has my full support and get the goals kodjia you can do it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newry_Villan Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 delighted for him to get his goal. I was worried he was done!! Hopefully gives him that wee bit of confidence now that every striker craves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted August 18, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 18, 2018 If today was the day that we saw the return of 20 goals a season Kodjia, then the two dropped points is a fair trade off. If... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Jimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Im not worried about him to be honest. He’s better than all 3 strikers we had last season. Some of his play in the last three games suggest that (if you put Hull game aside, he’s getting better and better with every game). I’d like us to try and play diamond with him and Hogan (or Davis, or even Green) upfront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted August 20, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 18/08/2018 at 13:51, Newry_Villan said: delighted for him to get his goal. I was worried he was done!! Hopefully gives him that wee bit of confidence now that every striker craves. Martin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newry_Villan Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Yea, I'm from the same country as Martin. It's a wee thing we say. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted August 20, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2018 36 minutes ago, Newry_Villan said: Yea, I'm from the same country as Martin. It's a wee thing we say. I'm from the Black Country. When we say we need a wee it's means summat else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Amazed at how little criticism Kodjia gets. I appreciate that he has had bad injuries but he had game time (probably unwisely) at the tail end of last season, and a full preseason. I appreciate he got an assist midweek and a goal yesterday. The issue is that his general hold up play and work rate is appalling. We often discuss why we don't put teams to bed. When we play with hogan, kodjia or adomah, who can't actually hold a ball up it means that Grealish, McGinn etc end up receiving the ball 30 yards closer to our goal than they should do. If we had a lump of a cf (Matt smith etc) who could hold the ball up (given our tactics), we'd probably score more goals as a team. ( I'm not saying he's a technically better player), In terms of kodjia he may be being played slightly out of position but if he actually learned how to shield a ball, and make himself consistently available it might help. ......and relax. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Stratvillan said: Amazed at how little criticism Kodjia gets. I appreciate that he has had bad injuries but he had game time (probably unwisely) at the tail end of last season, and a full preseason. I appreciate he got an assist midweek and a goal yesterday. The issue is that his general hold up play and work rate is appalling. We often discuss why we don't put teams to bed. When we play with hogan, kodjia or adomah, who can't actually hold a ball up it means that Grealish, McGinn etc end up receiving the ball 30 yards closer to our goal than they should do. If we had a lump of a cf (Matt smith etc) who could hold the ball up (given our tactics), we'd probably score more goals as a team. ( I'm not saying he's a technically better player), In terms of kodjia he may be being played slightly out of position but if he actually learned how to shield a ball, and make himself consistently available it might help. ......and relax. That's because Bruce has no intention of adapting his team's style of play to suit the players he plays. Hogan isn't effective as we smash long balls to him for 90 minutes when he is one of the shortest players in our team. Just because Kodjia is tall doesn't mean he is a target man yet Bruce insists on playing him as one with long balls being knocked to him. Invariably the gap between Kodjia and the midfield is always so big that he drops in to get the ball at times and then has much more work to do to get a shot away. If we can sort this problem out and get the midfield supplying him properly then he can be played up top and running at defenders which is much more his game. For me we need to drop the wingers, play a 4 man midfield as a diamond and play someone alongside Kodjia to get the best out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Lol just read back the last 7 pages. Absolutely ridiculous overreaction from some posters in particular. Now that he's back on form, surprisingly the people who were who were saying he's finished, 'brutal on the ball', etc no where to be seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 58 minutes ago, Jay.P.A said: Lol just read back the last 7 pages. Absolutely ridiculous overreaction from some posters in particular. Now that he's back on form, surprisingly the people who were who were saying he's finished, 'brutal on the ball', etc no where to be seen. I'm still here, and still think he's shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, av1 said: I'm still here, and still think he's shit. Good for you lad, good for you. He's not, but fair enough, that's your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Jay.P.A said: Lol just read back the last 7 pages. Absolutely ridiculous overreaction from some posters in particular. Now that he's back on form, surprisingly the people who were who were saying he's finished, 'brutal on the ball', etc no where to be seen. If Saturday was him inform, dread to think what he'll look like on a bad day. Don't let the fact he scored detract from a really poor performance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 20, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jay.P.A said: Lol just read back the last 7 pages. Absolutely ridiculous overreaction from some posters in particular. Now that he's back on form, surprisingly the people who were who were saying he's finished, 'brutal on the ball', etc no where to be seen. Really...after 1 goal? I am chuffed for him, really am, but nothing i have seen over 2 seasons shows me he is the striker to promote us. You need to read the criticisms about him rather than just the fact he is being criticised. Edited August 20, 2018 by Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 20, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Stratvillan said: Amazed at how little criticism Kodjia gets. Have you read the last few pages of this thread? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 30 minutes ago, Stratvillan said: If Saturday was him inform, dread to think what he'll look like on a bad day. Don't let the fact he scored detract from a really poor performance. Fact is, last two games, he's got a goal and an assist. But it's like he can't win. He's now starting to influence our games now - surely people should be happy? There was a massive over reaction of Kodjia. Doesn't score - gets criticized for not scoring. Scores - still shit? Doesn't pass - gets criticized for not passing. Sets up a goal - still shit? Lol it's like he can't win. Fans really need to give him time. Once the team starts create chances (Not that we'll make chance after chance under Bruce, so far this season anyway) for him and he'll put them away. He's proven in this league, despite what people want to think. Apart from the most elite strikers in the world, most will be anonymous until that one second when they bang in a goal or get an assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 In pre season, Green played a part of a game at CF, scored twice and looked dangerous. If Davis is injured, and Kodjia is better at inside forward, are we overlooking something here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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