Dodgyknees Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 IanRobo is a good guy. I don't agree with everything he says - and actually we are usually debating a number of things we disagree on, but he is a great bloke. Can somebody clear something up for me? Has Xia said Samuelson wasn't on the board? I thought he was announced as being on the board, but then moved to Recon, or am I mistaken? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwj Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, DK82 said: IanRobo is a good guy. I don't agree with everything he says - and actually we are usually debating a number of things we disagree on, but he is a great bloke. Can somebody clear something up for me? Has Xia said Samuelson wasn't on the board? I thought he was announced as being on the board, but then moved to Recon, or am I mistaken? To be fair, he has been going off on one about bankers and Samuelson and how it's a big conspiracy to bleed money out of the club to a Swiss bank account and they are all criminals and the FBI and asset stripping etc etc etc for months now. Been pretty tiring and a bit libelous if I'm being perfectly honest... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 1 minute ago, mwj said: To be fair, he has been going off on one about bankers and Samuelson and how it's a big conspiracy to bleed money out of the club to a Swiss bank account and they are all criminals and the FBI and asset stripping etc etc etc for months now. Been pretty tiring and a bit libelous if I'm being perfectly honest... I think Tony just had enough of it today to be fair. That twitter user wants to be careful at this point, he has buried himself in a mountain of libel that he's now desperately trying to dig his way out of. Whether he's on the ball with some of this or not, he's walking a tightrope IMO. He's also incredibly patronising to anyone who tries to discuss his accusations with him, which doesn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno_2004 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I think Tony just had enough of it today to be fair. That twitter user wants to be careful at this point, he has buried himself in a mountain of libel that he's now desperately trying to dig his way out of. Whether he's on the ball with some of this or not, he's walking a tightrope IMO. He's also incredibly patronising to anyone who tries to discuss his accusations with him, which doesn't help. Hasn't changed from the off-topic days then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 13 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I think Tony just had enough of it today to be fair. That twitter user wants to be careful at this point, he has buried himself in a mountain of libel that he's now desperately trying to dig his way out of. Whether he's on the ball with some of this or not, he's walking a tightrope IMO. He's also incredibly patronising to anyone who tries to discuss his accusations with him, which doesn't help. Can someone clarify the point the guy on twitter is trying to make? I don't understand ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted August 26, 2016 Moderator Share Posted August 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, GENTLEMAN said: Can someone clarify the point the guy on twitter is trying to make? I don't understand ... Not to go too far off topic, but basically Samuelson has been the subject of enquiries and investigations by the likes of the FBI and some people have/had concerns about his involvement in the takeover/running of the club. Legal clause: Samuelson has never been found guilty of, or been charged with, any wrongdoing or impropriety whatsoever. The twitter person was asking questions and raising concerns and has theories of various kinds. Dr T responded with statement that these were inaccurate. Dr T has now had enough of it and mentioned lawyers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynnchin84 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Dr. Tony Xia @Dr_TonyXia 12m12 minutes ago Dr. Tony Xia Retweeted Mark Hughes By this Sunday evening we'll know basically what's the situation on the ST and AM. So it could be happening or it might not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) 7 hours ago, blandy said: The caution in the whole post is understandable, and "grounded"- but the bit quoted is ridiculous. As far as I know people on twitter or on here or on other sites are not bound by any set of rules saying "it's not allowed to hold the following opinion, or to state it" What does happen is that people disagree with all kinds of views, agree with others. The notion of censorship of views which are not all "over the rainbow" is bonkers. A number of people have managed, despite the claimed unallowability of it to post views ranging from "I'm really worried about him" to "it's too early to be sure" to "wish he'd stop tweeting" to "he's brilliant and I love him". That's not just on here, that's everywhere. Pete if I'm being honest, I don't remember writing that, if i did, it must have been some time ago.....and Also if I did, it would have been relating to criticism of posts not the rules of the site. Ps plus i can't spell dissension. Edited August 26, 2016 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daweii Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Sounds like Xia has set his own deadline. It would leave us 3 days to get our second choice in and the way Xia talks about transfers those appear like they would be easier to do than this one. So by Sunday evening the club will know if Hernandez is Villa bound, if not we have enough time to get in our second choice.. Sounds good to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NulliSecundus Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 1 hour ago, jonno_2004 said: Would be absolutely comical to see Dr Tony and his legal dept go after the illiterate IanRobo. Just wasted 10 minutes reading his tweets. Has he deleted them? Just been on the villa views Twitter and couldn't see anything of note... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 4 hours ago, TheStagMan said: Wow! We are comparing Churchill to Chairman Mao...... only on VT!!!!! I am sure it happens in the Indian subcontinent as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted August 26, 2016 Moderator Share Posted August 26, 2016 38 minutes ago, TRO said: Pete if I'm being honest, I don't remember writing that, if i did, it must have been some time ago.....and Also if I did, it would have been relating to criticism of posts not the rules of the site. It was in Richard's post that you quoted, so I'm guessing something went wrong with the quoting system. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Flynnchin84 said: Dr. Tony Xia @Dr_TonyXia 12m12 minutes ago Dr. Tony Xia Retweeted Mark Hughes By this Sunday evening we'll know basically what's the situation on the ST and AM. So it could be happening or it might not Basically, an ultimatum to whatever bids we have in, that if a deal can't be done by Sunday... We move on to other targets I reckon! Edited August 26, 2016 by Mjvilla Dawei beat me to the same point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 4 hours ago, blandy said: The caution in the whole post is understandable, and "grounded"- but the bit quoted is ridiculous. As far as I know people on twitter or on here or on other sites are not bound by any set of rules saying "it's not allowed to hold the following opinion, or to state it" What does happen is that people disagree with all kinds of views, agree with others. The notion of censorship of views which are not all "over the rainbow" is bonkers. A number of people have managed, despite the claimed unallowability of it to post views ranging from "I'm really worried about him" to "it's too early to be sure" to "wish he'd stop tweeting" to "he's brilliant and I love him". That's not just on here, that's everywhere. I think it was me that made the post not TRO. Forgive me I was not in anyway trying to suggest there were any rule in place or censorship or moderation to preclude such opinions. I was, I guess in a clumsy way, trying to reference how, in my opinion, the responses to the alternate opinion can come across. To me, and I may be reading too much in but this is certainly how some are worded, it is very much like the person who is making the response see,s to be thinking "how dare you say that it is utterly ridiculous to hold that opinion how dare you" . Then we see posters labelled as anything from depressed, negative, having no joy in their life, why are they supporting villa or following football full stop and then in certain circumstances called racist and xenophobic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V01 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 3 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Sash windows bro. I know they haven't quite made it out west yet but I can assure you they will blow your mind! There's always something being blown with/by you... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 2 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I think Tony just had enough of it today to be fair. That twitter user wants to be careful at this point, he has buried himself in a mountain of libel that he's now desperately trying to dig his way out of. Whether he's on the ball with some of this or not, he's walking a tightrope IMO. He's also incredibly patronising to anyone who tries to discuss his accusations with him, which doesn't help. To be brutally honest I have seen and heard Ian say worse things about Ellis and Lerner than he has about xia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) Can't say I blame Xia for his response to that guy. The bloke's chinese, and I usually have to read his messages 2 or 3 times to figure out what he's saying, but he's still more intelligible than that weapon grade gobshite. Reading his twitter comments is like reading a book with every other page removed. Quote @Dr_TonyXia helping even and can you explain with Banfill is on VicVilla, CS was on Recon and Villa board etc, or just quote Mao eh ? WTF does that mean? Edited August 26, 2016 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 23 minutes ago, Richard said: To be brutally honest I have seen and heard Ian say worse things about Ellis and Lerner than he has about xia I don't catch your drift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 To be honest I have no knowledge of Mao, however alot of things are subjective. For instance, Castro, Chavez, Saddam, and Gaddafi were painted as absolute demons by the Media. I can tell you that, in the Caribbean, for example they are seen as "heroes". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) I said some pretty shitty things about both Ellis and Lerner but I at least tried to ground them in some form of reality. I helped to organise and/or took part in protests against both. Xia is neither of them just as they were not each other. Maybe he'll turn out to be another bad owner, but right now he demonstrably is doing a good job. So why treat him as if he were a bond villain? They'd love him to fail just so they can say I told you so. I think that itself is pretty **** shitty and I wish those people would **** off. Edited August 26, 2016 by dont_do_it_doug. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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