Guest av1 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I'd leave out Barkley and Wilshere, but i think Roy will leave Barkley and Drinkwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 3 hours ago, villa4europe said: He'll take wilshere and he'll start him First game vs Russia wilshere and Henderson will be starting, two midfielders struggling for fitness...and we'll wonder where it goes wrong... Think sturridge will miss out and probably Townsend but both have the media backing, I really wouldn't be surprised if he dropped drinkwater I didn't watch the game, but reading reports wasn't Drinkwater crap? I mean, with only 2 caps and one a crap performance, he can hardly be surprised if he gets left behind. I don't mind Wilshere playing, I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as everyone else on here seems to think. Don't rate Henderson and Barkley is massively out of form so I don't mind if either of them don't make it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Drinkwater has looked shite and out of place in both of his caps, so has done himself no favours despite having a great season and being vastly superior to Henderson (for club). That said Henderson is just a pointless bag of shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 (edited) i would probably choose sturridge over rashford. Even with his injuries. (taking 5 like villachris said seems fine given rooney is basically a AM nowadays). Sturridge ability to score goals out of nothing just seems way more important than an up'n'coming young kid whos going to be all kind of inconsistent for 20 mins a game. Just try manage him off the pitch so he can be used as a sub, not for someone whos going to be playing 90 mins every game. I think we will line up exactly same way as we did against turkey And just play super safe to start of with playing 4-5-1. No idea whos going to get dropped for rooney though, basically pushing ali or rooney on the right which blows if he drops sterling.. Said at start FB's it doesnt even matter who plays theyre all similar...but i think bertrand > rose now Edited May 30, 2016 by gharperr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Hard to believe it's the same Bertrand who barely looked like on an improvement on Luna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted May 30, 2016 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Hard to believe it's the same Bertrand who barely looked like on an improvement on Luna. Our team seems to do that to players. Which is why if people can't see what we've got in Amavi then I really can't help them, nor do I want to try, frankly. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 12 minutes ago, BOF said: Our team seems to do that to players. Which is why if people can't see what we've got in Amavi then I really can't help them, nor do I want to try, frankly. Indeed. Funnily enough, this discussion seems to overlap a little with the current discussion in the Grealish thread, where at least two posters seem to be genuinely arguing that organisations don't have cultures or that if they do they don't effect the people working in them. Bertrand might be another example of the falsity of that argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 1 hour ago, BOF said: Our team seems to do that to players. Which is why if people can't see what we've got in Amavi then I really can't help them, nor do I want to try, frankly. Agreed, even Walker, having started impressively, started to look close to average by the time his loan finished here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisagg75 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 i'd always take an extra striker.with our defence we'll need goalscorers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Full backs are much of a muchness but from what I've seen Walker and Rose will fly up and down the pitch whereas Clyne and Bertrand are your more safety first pair so which pair start v Russia will give indication of the style of play I think although guess it depends on the midfield aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 The full backs are important because we have no proper width up top, it'll all come through them, sterling and Townsend with drift in, Rooney, lallana, Milner will drift out there but they aren't wingers We'll play with overlapping fullbacks high up the pitch, to be fair to him dier can read the game really well from what I've seen and provide cover, not sure if the others can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Been looking at advance stages if qualify from group, might be better for England to finish second as plays runner up of group F which is a generally weak group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I haven't really checked the routes in the knock outs as just too many scenarios e.g. winner of group will play a 3rd place team. Much easier to plan a route when it was simply group winner to play 2nd place team etc. Who are England likely to play if they win the group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Group F would be Austria or Portugal. Portugal are England bogey team and Austria are the darkest of dark horses in this tournament and have a top class midfielder in Alaba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Group F would be Austria or Portugal. Portugal are England bogey team and Austria are the darkest of dark horses in this tournament and have a top class midfielder in Alaba Would be better for them to play one of them as they could play one of turkey group and thats a tough group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Delph, Townsend and drinkwater dropped from squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007√ Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 5 minutes ago, Jimzk5 said: Delph, Townsend and drinkwater dropped from squad Seems about right. Delph- Injured Townsend- Average as can be Drinkwater- Out of his depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Roys made decision, unlucky snake!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) Dropping Drinkwater but keeping Wilshere (I rate him but he's crocks easily and hasn't played much this season) and bloody Ross Barkley? Mental. Should have dropped Delph, Townsend and Barkley. Edited May 31, 2016 by Ginko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007√ Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ginko said: Dropping Drinkwater but keeping Wilshere (I rate him but he's crocks easily and hasn't played much this season) and bloody Ross Barkley? Mental. Should have dropped Delph, Townsend and Barkley. I agree, but watching Drinkwater play, he looked way out of his depth! Wilshere, if fit can play. Its definitely a gamble but I'd have a fit Wilshere over Drinkwater by far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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