villa4europe Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 5 hours ago, ferguson1 said: Delph injured and will miss out on the 23 man squad! Shame dont think he was ever going to make it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 27, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 27, 2016 9 hours ago, Zatman said: dont think he was ever going to make it though Yeah, if anything I'm a bit disappointed by that news. I'd have preferred for him just to be cut for not being good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I wouldn't take Sturridge. Too injury prone. As good as he is when fit, you just can't rely on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Yes but he's not going to be a starter isn't he. Should be a decent bench option and should be able to manage fitness better that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Who else will miss out then. Townsend will be one I think. The other is between Henderson, Drinkwater and Rashford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I'd be stunned if he dropped Henderson. He's a Hodgson favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 11 hours ago, VillaChris said: Yes but he's not going to be a starter isn't he. Should be a decent bench option and should be able to manage fitness better that way. id definite take Rashford ahead of him, dont think he will but Hodgson should take all 5 but probably too risky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 With Delph out, it's made Hodgson's decision a little easier as now he only has 2 to let down. Personally, I think taking 5 strikers is a waste especially when one of the picks (Sturridge) is already injured and we have the attacking midfield players (Alli, Berkely, Lallana and even Townsend) who can supplement the attacking options. For that reason I wouldn't take Sturridge. As for the final chop, Woy has really gambled by selecting his usual crowd of Delph, Henderson, Wilshire, Sturridge etc - all of whom are currently injured or just coming back from lengthy injuries. We surely cannot go into a major tournament where our midfield are nowhere near match fit and susceptible to injury. (although Woy will probably shoehorn Rooney into central midfield just so he plays!) Out of the crocked midfielders, Delph is already out of the tourno (so a wasted opportunity for someone who's played all season) which leaves either Henderson or Wilshire. We surely cannot take both and leave behind Drinkwater?!? This would be a major gamble and knowing England's luck one or both would get injured and Alli/Dier will get suspended..... I'd leave Wilshire behind, minimal playing time this season and has not looked match-fit/effective in his 3 appearances for Arsenal and England. I honestly think Henderson is a better fit for how England play and could sit alongside Dier, allowing Alli the freedom to express himself. My England XI (from Woy's current squad) ..................Hart Clyne.Smalling.Cahill.Rose ....Henderson.Dier.Milner ..................Alli ...........Kane.Vardy Subs: Forster, Walker, Stones, Lallana,Sterling, Rashford, Rooney I don't hold out much hope for a successful tournament, when arguably we should be pushing for a place in the final. I can see the decision to only take 3 centre halves backfiring spectacularly (Rooney can play there as well..;)) and taking a perma-crocked squad is just begging for punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGabbana Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 With Delph out, it's made Hodgson's decision a little easier as now he only has 2 to let down. Personally, I think taking 5 strikers is a waste especially when one of the picks (Sturridge) is already injured and we have the attacking midfield players (Alli, Berkely, Lallana and even Townsend) who can supplement the attacking options. For that reason I wouldn't take Sturridge. As for the final chop, Woy has really gambled by selecting his usual crowd of Delph, Henderson, Wilshire, Sturridge etc - all of whom are currently injured or just coming back from lengthy injuries. We surely cannot go into a major tournament where our midfield are nowhere near match fit and susceptible to injury. (although Woy will probably shoehorn Rooney into central midfield just so he plays!) Out of the crocked midfielders, Delph is already out of the tourno (so a wasted opportunity for someone who's played all season) which leaves either Henderson or Wilshire. We surely cannot take both and leave behind Drinkwater?!? This would be a major gamble and knowing England's luck one or both would get injured and Alli/Dier will get suspended..... I'd leave Wilshire behind, minimal playing time this season and has not looked match-fit/effective in his 3 appearances for Arsenal and England. I honestly think Henderson is a better fit for how England play and could sit alongside Dier, allowing Alli the freedom to express himself. My England XI (from Woy's current squad) ..................Hart Clyne.Smalling.Cahill.Rose ....Henderson.Dier.Milner ..................Alli ...........Kane.Vardy Subs: Forster, Walker, Stones, Lallana,Sterling, Rashford, Rooney I don't hold out much hope for a successful tournament, when arguably we should be pushing for a place in the final. I can see the decision to only take 3 centre halves backfiring spectacularly (Rooney can play there as well..) and taking a perma-crocked squad is just begging for punishment. Surely Drinkwater is the better option to Henderson? 1 of the best Mids this season in a league winning team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, YGabbana said: Surely Drinkwater is the better option to Henderson? 1 of the best Mids this season in a league winning team. I'd certainly take him (esp over Wilshire) whether he's a starter is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 He'll take wilshere and he'll start him First game vs Russia wilshere and Henderson will be starting, two midfielders struggling for fitness...and we'll wonder where it goes wrong... Think sturridge will miss out and probably Townsend but both have the media backing, I really wouldn't be surprised if he dropped drinkwater 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 (edited) I still think Ali is better in midfield, rather than as the 10. Dier in the holding role. Then Roy will have to decide between wilshire or Henderson. I don't understand the point in the Portugal game. It would be better to rest them for a week..Kane had played over 50 games this year. Edited May 30, 2016 by mikeyp102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 19 hours ago, VillaChris said: Yes but he's not going to be a starter isn't he. Should be a decent bench option and should be able to manage fitness better that way. He can't manage his fitness in the build up to the tournament. Rashford is a better option for me now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGabbana Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I'd certainly take him (esp over Wilshire) whether he's a starter is another matter. Id start him over the rubbish over rated Henderson anyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 10 hours ago, PaulC said: Who else will miss out then. Townsend will be one I think. The other is between Henderson, Drinkwater and Rashford I honestly can't see the point of Lallana, what does he really do when he plays other than be o.k in possession. England are doing nothing if he's being considered a starter. He dosen't have much pace either if he's going to play out wide. More I think about it....more Ross Barkley misses out. When you look at it Dele Ali has surpassed him this season as the great young attacking midfielder hope. You also have to look at where Rooney will fit in...probably again as an AM if England go for Kane and Vardy up top so yeah I'd cut Lallana and Barkley although looks like it will be Drinkwater and another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Barkley is getting away with it at the moment, had a poor season, done nothing for England, Ali has definitely overtaken him, he'd probably be 3rd choice sub for that role and yet his name is barely brought up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 9 hours ago, Zatman said: id definite take Rashford ahead of him, dont think he will but Hodgson should take all 5 but probably too risky It's not really. If England play 2 upfront and also Rooney behind him....then you'd only have Rashford as impact sub. I'd always prefer two strikers ready to come off the bench if the front two aren't doing much plus also having a wide player there. I don't think 5 strikers is excessive at all, England are certainly going to need to score goals to progress far given the shambles at the back. If Welbeck was fit he'd be on the plane without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I think if you've got 4 strikers plus sterling we'll be fine, if we play 4-4-2 diamond we have sterling, lallana, Barkley and Ali who can all play there, play some sort of 4-3-3 and sterling can play as one of the front 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 True but I remember 2006 World cup and that abomination from Sven (cue massive Zatman defence....) Only took 4 strikers, Crouch, Rooney, Owen and Walcott. Walcott was never ever going to play so you were just down to 3 strikers and Rooney wasn't fit as he did his metatarsal just 6 weeks before. And then Owen did his ACL 2nd game.... I'd take 5 just to be on the safe side and class Rooney as an attacking midfielder for this tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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