lexicon Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 13 hours ago, blandy said: Players managers and coaches make up 185 of those. No idea how that works. How do we have so many? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 No idea how that works. How do we have so many? Considering what a screw up of a season it's been, it's almost heartstopping to think we have had 185 people involved on the playing/coaching side. Often it feels more like 18.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw_nuff Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 On 15 March 2016 at 14:10, bannedfromHandV said: I don't honestly give a shit, the entire club is under-performing and give or take a handful of people I'd say that everyone has to hold their hand up in some small part to having contributed. Okay, 55 year old Doris who's served tea there for the last 30 years probably doesn't deserve to be included but I'm afraid you have to completely destroy something sometimes in order to rebuild it to a satisfactory level. Do you have an example of this ever working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 15 minutes ago, Shaw_nuff said: Do you have an example of this ever working? Hiroshima ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 Wouldn't mind a few players with max gradel's attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Can we ban players from the stadium and training ground? I would tell half these players to find new clubs or train in solace for the rest of their contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanwesty88 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Poor attitude and desire again. They look about as interested as Remi Garde. They just sulk, fold their arms and give up. Everyone out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mantis Posted March 19, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2016 There needs to be a massive cull of the players this summer. They're just pathetic losers really. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Weak mentality seeps through this squad. Needs an complete overhaul if that means having another "bomb squad" so be it. Let's see how "committed" Randy Lerner is to financing and agreeing all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mantis said: There needs to be a massive cull of the players this summer. They're just pathetic losers really. Sell all the useless F~ckers and play the kids IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Major, major clear out required! Dreadful squad of players with simply no stomach for a fight, complete lack of desire to improve and lack of quality to win games. Wouldn't particularly miss any of the senior playing squad if the lot were moved on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Heads just completely go once we concede. And we are so prone to awful lapses of concentration at the back, we will concede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 None of them care, our support staff and coaching set up although proven to develop technically decent players is obviously found wanting in off the field education. ive said it for ages we have a very real drinking problem at the club, certainly among the younger players. I think behind the scenes we have 70's & 80's attitudes to professionalism and that seeps through to all. if you're a vertout and you arrive and all the players your age are still in the academy and out on the pop most weeks not 100% focused and driven would you give your all? I was stood next to Bannan at Cheltenham the other day I didn't talk to him as to me he's a loser, wasting his talent abused his position at the club and its criminal, I'd not trust myself to tell him that then give him a slap so I kept quiet. But I overheard much of his conversations with a blues fan who tried to give him a bit of verbal. Long story short he'd been on it for 3 days and he didn't give a toss about Villa, to him he just shrugged when they tried to tease him about the clubs position. These players don't really buy into the club the way us fans do, for them it's a jolly and when it's become a bit of lads living the dream it's obvious why we've fallen behind in the modern game. More and more seems to be slowly coming out now with one or two ex players like lowton, Johnson & Drennan alluding to it not being all well, it didn't escape my notice that the other footballers making headlines at Cheltenham we're mainly Villa Youth products. It's a controversial opinion but I would sack pretty much all academy and coaching staff as well as transfer list all youth players aged over 21 who've not broken into the match day squad or are known to burn the candle at both ends. He's gone now but Chris Herd was like superhands from peep show for Christ sake it's all wrong has been for some time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 said it before but I would sack them all but OKore, Amavi, Grealish and Adama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 7 hours ago, Fairy In Boots said: None of them care, our support staff and coaching set up although proven to develop technically decent players is obviously found wanting in off the field education. ive said it for ages we have a very real drinking problem at the club, certainly among the younger players. I think behind the scenes we have 70's & 80's attitudes to professionalism and that seeps through to all. if you're a vertout and you arrive and all the players your age are still in the academy and out on the pop most weeks not 100% focused and driven would you give your all? I was stood next to Bannan at Cheltenham the other day I didn't talk to him as to me he's a loser, wasting his talent abused his position at the club and its criminal, I'd not trust myself to tell him that then give him a slap so I kept quiet. But I overheard much of his conversations with a blues fan who tried to give him a bit of verbal. Long story short he'd been on it for 3 days and he didn't give a toss about Villa, to him he just shrugged when they tried to tease him about the clubs position. These players don't really buy into the club the way us fans do, for them it's a jolly and when it's become a bit of lads living the dream it's obvious why we've fallen behind in the modern game. More and more seems to be slowly coming out now with one or two ex players like lowton, Johnson & Drennan alluding to it not being all well, it didn't escape my notice that the other footballers making headlines at Cheltenham we're mainly Villa Youth products. It's a controversial opinion but I would sack pretty much all academy and coaching staff as well as transfer list all youth players aged over 21 who've not broken into the match day squad or are known to burn the candle at both ends. He's gone now but Chris Herd was like superhands from peep show for Christ sake it's all wrong has been for some time. Pretty much spot on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted March 20, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 20, 2016 Maybe a stint in the championship will wipe that attitude out. You cannot really give it the big one when you don't play In the top league anymore. It should work in 2 ways players should want to move back to the top league so have to play/train better and harder to earn a move which if they actually did what they are supposed to would mean we should piss that league and they earn promotion to the top league with us. The only way they get back on the gravy train is to prove they are not as shit as the country thinks they are. Otherwise no club will touch them with a barge pole. The championship is nothing special but what it does have is dedicated hard working players we will see if this lot have the minerals to roll their sleeves up because if they do, they should have the extra quality to win their fair share of games. Technical ability alone means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 47 minutes ago, S-Platt said: Maybe a stint in the championship will wipe that attitude out. You cannot really give it the big one when you don't play In the top league anymore. It should work in 2 ways players should want to move back to the top league so have to play/train better and harder to earn a move which if they actually did what they are supposed to would mean we should piss that league and they earn promotion to the top league with us. The only way they get back on the gravy train is to prove they are not as shit as the country thinks they are. Otherwise no club will touch them with a barge pole. The championship is nothing special but what it does have is dedicated hard working players we will see if this lot have the minerals to roll their sleeves up because if they do, they should have the extra quality to win their fair share of games. Technical ability alone means nothing. I think their attitude will get worse. These people don't have the brains/common sense to recognise and understand what you are describing here. They're as thick as they are rich. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 15 hours ago, Fairy In Boots said: I was stood next to Bannan at Cheltenham the other day I didn't talk to him as to me he's a loser, wasting his talent abused his position at the club and its criminal, I'd not trust myself to tell him that then give him a slap so I kept quiet. But I overheard much of his conversations with a blues fan who tried to give him a bit of verbal. Long story short he'd been on it for 3 days and he didn't give a toss about Villa, to him he just shrugged when they tried to tease him about the clubs position. These players don't really buy into the club the way us fans do, for them it's a jolly and when it's become a bit of lads living the dream it's obvious why we've fallen behind in the modern game. why should Bannan care about Villa? He isnt even our player and is a Celtic fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Not sorting out the terrible attitude of the players and assuming "they'll be ok in the championship" is the reason QPR won't be getting promoted this year. I still maintain that binning the bums will be the most important part of our close season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Exactly. I mentioned it earlier but we are going the same way of QPR. I can quite easily see the management thinking a change of manager should sort all the problems out when that is far from the truth. Won't be cheap but it needs to be done to remotely stand a chance but we won't because we are doing things on the cheap so deserve what we get. QPR found out late on which has put them in an awful position, we have a head start to avoid doing what they did. But we won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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